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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Synchros

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== 63-Series Transmission == == 63-Series Transmission ==
-A14-equipped B210 5-speed+ 
 + [[#32604-P0100]] RING-BAULK
 + * A14-equipped B210 5-speed
 + * 63A 5-speed for A-engine
 + * 63A 5-speed for L-engine
 + * 71B 4-speed, 5-speed
32604-P0100 RING-BAULK (5) FS5W63A 5-speed 32604-P0100 RING-BAULK (5) FS5W63A 5-speed
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32608-N9000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3 32608-N9000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
32602-32200 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 3 32602-32200 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 3
- 
- 32604-P0100 RING-BAULK  
- * 63 5-speed 
- * 71B 4-speed, 5-speed 
32609-73201 INSERT-SHIFTING 32609-73201 INSERT-SHIFTING

Revision as of 10:01, 23 January 2019

Synchronizers let you shift gears without grinding.

Contents

Overview

Synchro is two cones pressed together until the two shafts run the same speed:
synchro.jpg Borg_Warner_Cone_synchro_a.jpg

Each gear has a syncho face (external cone) machined with it
gear_with_cone.jpg

The hub is spring loaded so when you move the shifter partway, it presses the baulk ring (internal cone part) against the gear cone.
Borg_Warner_Cone_synchro_a.jpg
When they have slowed down to the same speed, the shifter will move all the way in. It happens very quickly, unless the synchros are worn and not working well.

 V I D E O  Blocker Ring Synchromesh Unit - How it works! (click to view)
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Synchro is basically:

  • Coupling with hub
  • Baulk ring cone
  • Gear face cone

Coupling with hub. Left: assembled from the parts shown
22990.jpgAlbum 22990

Each synchro set services two gears (arrows). Center arrow points to the Coupling Sleeve (The Coupling Sleeve is what the shifter moves)
11754.jpgAlbum click to view

The hub is keyed to the mainshaft, so the hub sleeve rotates constantly in the Shift Fork while the car is moving.
shift_Fork_synchro_hub.jpg shift_Fork_In_synchro_hub.jpg

The spring lets the hub move side-to-side inside the Coupling Sleeve, but not move too far. On this one there is a total of about 1/4" (5mm) total movement possible. The baulk ring, which fits in the hub, is pushed against the gear cone. Once the two shafts are synchronized, the spring pops the dog teeth together.
synchro_spring.jpg Synchro_hub_in.jpg Synchro_hub_out.jpg

Cracked shifting inserts can prevent gear shifting
17839.jpgAlbum 17839

Warner Vs Porsche Type Synchros

F5C56A 5-speed has very different synchros from the 4-speed. It has competition type synchros (the "C" in F5C56A) which are very different: instead of a brass baulk ring, it has two split rings. Both types have a conical section to them. They are the same type as early Datsun Roadster 'servo' type but smaller size.

4-speed: W56 'W' Warner (Borg Warner) BRONZE baulk-ring type syncromesh 
5-speed: C56 'C' Type STEEL Porsche split-ring synchromesh.

56-18.jpg

4-speed: W56 'W' BRONZE baulk-ring type syncromesh
c-synchro.jpg

5-speed: C56 'C' Type STEEL synchro
w-synchro.jpg RD0009.jpg synchro-1.jpg RD0008.jpg

Comparison
18112.jpgAlbum 18112 synchro_types.jpg

Gearbox

56-Series Transmission

See Transmission Gear Part Numbers
B211_032-03-01_56A.jpg

3-speed
32604-18000 B110,B210 RING-baulk
32604-H1000 B10 <> 32604-18000
32604-H7300 B210 > 32604-H1000 <> 32604-H1010
4-speed F4W56L, F4W56A
32604-18000 B10 RING-baulk
32604-H1000 B10 <> 32604-18000
32604-H9000 B120 RING-BAULK (4)
32604-H9000 B310 RING-BAULK F4W56A, F4W60L(F4+F5)
32604-H7300 RING-BAULK B211 F456A, F4W60L (from 7407) > 32604-H1000
32604-H7300 RING-BAULK B210 F456A (from 7407) > 
            32604-H1010 (from 7311) <> 32604-H1000
32609-18000 INSERT-SHIFTING (6) [plate]
32603-18000 SPRING-SHIFTING INSERT (4)
            (or SPRING-synchronizer, RING-SYNCHRONIZER)
32601-18000 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER (2)
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING (2)
32262 32265-18000 WASHER-THRUST, synchronizer hub 
      [input gear side]
5-SPEED F5C56A
32601-H7200 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER (2)
32606-H7200 SLEEVE-coupling (2)
32611-H7200 RING-synchro
32612-H7200 BLOCK-thrust
32613-H7200 BLOCK-anchor
32614-H7200 BAND-brake 22 (2) $3 USD
32616-H7200 CIRCLIP

Also see 56-Series_Transmission_Parts#Synchros.

32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 
* B11/B12/B13/B14 4-speed, 5-speed, E16, SR20DE, GA16DE
* B110/B210 4-speed
* B210/B310 4-speed, 5-speed
* N10/N12/N13 F4, F5
* T11
5-speed parts
26075.jpgAlbum click to view 26076.jpgAlbum click to view 26077.jpgAlbum click to view
32606-H7200%20.jpg o0480036013163232650.jpg o0480036013163215203.jpg o0480036013163215243.jpg o0480036013163215307.jpg 32606-H7200a.jpg
4-SPEED EARLY
32601-18000 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 1 4 SPEED $78 USD
32604-H1000 BAULK RING
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING $52 USD
4-SPEED LATE
32601-H7301 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER, 1ST & 2ND, 3RD & 4TH $83 USD
* same as 60-series Transmission 4-speed & 5-speed (1st & 2nd only)
32604-H9000 BAULK RING $44 USD
* also replaces ealier 32604-H1000
* same as 60-series Transmission 4-speed
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING
* same as 60-series Transmission 4-speed & 5-speed
5-SPEED
32601-H7200 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER, 2nd & 3rd, 4th & 5th 5-speed
32606-H7200 SLEEVE-coupling
  • 5-speed was never available in pre-56A form (was designed from the go with improvements over the original 56L 4-speed)
  • Used steel "competition" (Porsche type) synchros in F5C56A form
  • Datsun Competition in one instance mentioned warner type synchros (F5W56A). However, other Datsun sources such as the B110 and B210 parts catalogs only list F5C56(A) and Porsche type synchros
    Datsun Model Series B210 parts catalog (Japan market)
    26355.jpgAlbum 26355
1984 Nissan Competition Catalog:

The 5-speed transmission (FS5C56A) was originally installed on certain non-USA models of the 1200 ... The synchro mechanism is the servo-type (steel).

16819.jpgAlbum 16819

Pitroad will convert your F5C56A to Warner synchros for 559,000 yen or sell you a kit.

60-Series Transmission

60L vs 60A
56-04.jpg

#32604-H7300 RING-BAULK
* F4W60 4-SPEED B210
* F4W56A 4-SPEED B210
#32604-H9700 RING-BAULK
* FS5W60A 5-speed (5)
#32604-H9000 RING-BAULK [12-tooth]
* F4W56A 4-speed late (4)
* F4W60L 4-speed late (4)
* FS5W60L 5-speed (5)
FS5W60Lb.jpg
FS5W60L 5-Speed (-1979 B310)
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING 4th-5th, 2nd-3rd
NOTE: 1st gear coupling sleeve is built into Reverse Gear
32604-H9000 RING-BAULK 5
32258-H9001 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 1ST & REVERSE $133.92 USD
  32602-32200 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 1ST 3
  32608-H9000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
  32234-H9000 RETAINER-SHIFTING INSERT
32601-H9001 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 2ND & 3RD
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 2
  32609-18000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
32601-H9000 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 4TH & 5TH
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 2 
  32609-18000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
FS5W60A 5-Speed (1980- B310)
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING 3
32604-H9700 RING-BAULK 5
32601-H7300 HUB-SYNCRO,1ST & 2ND
  32609-H9700 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCRO 2
32601-H7301 HUB-SYNCRO,3RD & 4TH
  32609-M0102 INSERT-SHIFTING -0780 3
  32609-H9700 INSERT-SHIFTING 0880- <0> 32609-M0102 3
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCRO 2
32601-H9000 HUB-SYNCRO 5TH & REVERSE
  32609-H9700 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCRO 2
32602-32200 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER
* B310 1979 5-speed
* 71B 5-speed, 4-speed
* 63A 5-speed
32609-M0102 INSERT-SHIFTING
* B310 1980 5-speed
* N10 1979-1981 F4, F5


From the following parts catalog listings, it seems H73 and H90 synchro rings should be interchangeable -- all the adjacen parts are identical except the rings.

FS4W60 4-Speed (B210 & B310)
32606-18000 SLEEVE-COUPLING 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th
32604-H7300 RING-BAULK 4 B210
32604-H9000 RING-BAULK 4 B310
32601-H7300 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 1ST & 2ND
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 2
  32609-18000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
32601-H7301 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 3RD & 4TH
  32603-18000 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 2 
  32609-18000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
32200-H7300 GEAR ASSY-MAIN DRIVE 20T
32260-H7300 GEAR ASSY-3RD 23T
32250-H7300 GEAR ASSY-2ND 28T
32230-H7300 GEAR ASSY-1ST 34T

63-Series Transmission

#32604-P0100 RING-BAULK
* A14-equipped B210 5-speed
* 63A 5-speed for A-engine
* 63A 5-speed for L-engine
* 71B 4-speed, 5-speed
32604-P0100 RING-BAULK (5) FS5W63A 5-speed
32606-N7100 SLEEVE-COUPLING <> 32606-73200 2
  32605-N9000 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER,4TH & 5TH
  32601-N9000 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER 2ND & 3RD
  32609-73201 INSERT-SHIFTING 6
  32603-73200 SPRING-SPREAD 4
32245-N9000 GEAR-REVERSE,MAIN (38T)
  32258-N9001 HUB-SYNCHRONIZER,1ST & REVERSE
  32608-N9000 INSERT-SHIFTING 3
  32602-32200 SPRING-SYNCHRONIZER 3
32609-73201 INSERT-SHIFTING
* 63 5-speed
* Z31 VG30.MT.F5 3rd-4th
32603-73200 SPRING-SPREAD
* 63 5-speed
* B11/B12/B13/B14
* D21 4WD.KA24E.MT.FT
* GC22.Z24I
* N12/N13
* S12.VG30E.MT
* T11
* Z31.VG30.MT.F5

Part Number

3264-18000

32604-18000 B110 56-series 3-speed
32604-18000 B10 3-spd, 4-spd <> 32604-H1000

Per B10 parts catalog, 180 is interchangeable with H10, however the B110 catalog makes no indication of this.

                 H1000  H1001
       Thickness   7.8  8.2 mm
Outside Diameter  69.6  69.3
O. D. less teeth  60.2  59.2

Per Ningbo, the dimensions differ slightly from H10
pro_201514162824.jpg

32604-H1000

56-series 4-speed
* 32604-H1000 Baulk Ring
* 32604-H1010 alternate supplier
* 32604-H7300 > H10

H73 may be used to replace H10, but not vice-versa.

Per Nissan Parts, the original H10 synchros were "replaced" by the #H90 part, however the dimension are different.

Specs for OAT06-551003
032.jpg

aftermarket H10 specs
pro_20151416304.jpg

Some vendors list a 32604-H1001, however it differs from H1000 and it is unknow if this is an actual Nissan listing
SynchronizerForNissan32604-H1001.jpg

                 H1000  H1001
       Thickness   7.8  8.2 mm
Outside Diameter  69.6  69.3
O. D. less teeth  60.2  59.2
cone part min dia   51  50.3
cone part max dia   53  52.3

Inspection

Place the baulk ring over the gear and push down to seat it, then measure the clearance between the teeth. Too little clearance is probably caused by a worn ring.

Normal: 1.05-1.40 mm
Limit:  0.50 mm

TM-28.jpg

Tm28.jpg

Fit ring to gear
22988.jpgAlbum 22988

Measure 56A synchro clearance
22989.jpgAlbum 22989

32604-H7300

32604-H7300 RING-baulk (from '74-7)
* 6-tooth: 3 sets of 2 teeth
3 used
* 4-speed F4W56A early
* 4-speed F4W60L A14/A15 gearbox

H73 synchro
32604-H7300.jpg

Interchange with #H10 is backwards only
174_5785cb6a1db54.jpgPost 479835

Assembled
22970.jpgAlbum 22970

OPS International OAT06-551002
2-OAT06-551002.jpg

OAT06-551002 specs
022.jpg

32604-H9000

H90 rings with less dog teeth replaced earlier types that had more teeth. Less teeth makes for easier shifting but is noisier/harsher. The original types made smoother shifts but took more effort on the shift lever.

32604-H9000 RING-BAULK
 replaced #H10 rings
 replaced #H73 rings
* 12 teeth (3 groups of 4 teeth, a group every 120 degrees)
* 60L (not 60A)
  * 5-speed FS5W60L 5 used
    B310 32604-H9000 RING-BAULK FS5W60L
  * 4-speed F4W60L 4 used
    B310 32604-H9000 RING-BAULK F4W60L
* Late 56A 4-speed 4 used
  B120 7510- 32604-H9000 RING-BAULK F4W56A
  B310 32604-H9000 RING-BAULK F4W56A

32604-H9000_.jpg 25677.jpgAlbum 25677 32604-H9000.jpg

32604-H9700

32604-H9700 RING-BAULK
* FS5W60A 5-speed late (5)

32604-H9700 Synchro BAULK RING & matching gear surface
25678.jpgAlbum click to view th_60a_gear.jpg

Genuine Nissan H97 (60A)
25678.jpgAlbum 25678 32604-H9700_.jpg

32604-H9700 Synchro BAULK RING
32604-H9700_long-ming.jpg

DCIF-2253A (32604-H9700)
DCIF-2253A_32604-H9700.jpg

H97 has three sets of three internal grooves
20677_57844ccf95b2a.jpgPost 479791

32604-P0100

32604-P0100 RING-BAULK 
* 63 5-speed, including B210.A14 versions
* 71B 4-speed, 5-speed
* 30 teeth (3 groups of 10 teeth)
JMIT/Jiun Mu DCIF-2254-32604-P0100/A6410
2254.jpg
OPS International OAT06-551008 (32604-P0100)
OAT06-551008.jpg

Comparison

Thickness:
9 mm    60L
8.5 mm  63A/71B
7.8 mm  56
?       60A

Outside Diameter
76.5 mm 63A/71B
69.6 mm 56
68 mm   60L
?       60A
Outside Diameter Less Teeth
66.4 mm 63A/71B
60.2 mm 56
60 mm   60L
?       60A
Inside Diameter
58.6 mm 63A/71B
52.5 mm 60L
52 mm   56
?       60A
Teeth Pattern
3 x 10  63A/71B
3 x 4   60L
3 x 2   Late 56A
30      Early 56A, 56L
30      60A 
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