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Disks on KB10
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Got some disks on the road car finally!

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qik1000
Posted: 2007/9/14 9:49  Updated: 2007/9/14 9:49
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 Re: Disks on KB10
They just squeeze under 13" rims. Although the rims I want to use require a 10mm spacer to clear the top corner of the caliper.

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beattie
Posted: 2007/9/14 9:51  Updated: 2007/9/14 9:51
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Nice, how did you go about that setup?

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qik1000
Posted: 2007/9/14 10:03  Updated: 2007/9/14 10:03
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Girlock calipers off a VK. U12 pinnie rotors. I profile cut and drilled my own plate to mount the caliper.

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sidedraught
Posted: 2007/9/14 11:23  Updated: 2007/9/14 11:23
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Thats some serious stopping power for a KB10. should go great. (or is that, should stop great.)

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D
Posted: 2011/4/23 2:27  Updated: 2011/4/23 2:27
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 Re: Disks on KB10
can you put a list of what needs done for this upgrade?
Or is it just the bracket that needs to be made?

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qik1000
Posted: 2011/4/23 13:04  Updated: 2011/4/23 13:04
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Hi D!

- used vk 6 cyl commo. I'm pretty sure you'll find the majority, if not all, 6 & 8 cyl commos from vb to vs with vented front disks are the same. check a brake parts catalogue. make sure you get the caliper mount and hose (and some good pads if your lucky). I got all this for $20 bucks total as nobody wants them. must be good!. kit it and have it ready to go.
- change the standard hubs for 1200 disk model hubs. you don't use the extra holes in the hub. its only done for spacing purposes as it puts the disk 5mm further out (widens track). you need to put it in a lathe and knock about 3mm off the o.d. this is not a toleranec thing and only done to clear the i.d. of the disks.
- buy a pair of vented disks to suit a U12 pintara
- cut a new bracket from 10 or 12mm steel. needs four holes to bolt to the upright and two more holes to mount the caliper. I'll try to dig out the dwg file if you interested. I had mine laser cut and I machined the centre to spigot on the upright but I think this is way overkill.
- bolt it all together with new bearings and bolts. the commo hose mounts up to the datto brake line too from memory. I think i used this to test it before ordering new braided lines at a much shorter length to suit.

thats about it.

- in case your interested, i've got U12 rear calipers sitting on a 1200 ute axle (only mod is to move the spring perches in to suit 1000 leaf spacing) with R31 girlock calipers and another laser cut bracket on the rear of this car. brake performance and balance is excellent. I have not tested it on the track yet as this lot is bolted to my road car, but i have heaps of confidence in it.

I use a master cylinder from a sunny and NO booster. It was the biggest bore available for the sunny. brake pedal force is similar to my wifes bog-standard VZ commodore, but stopping distance is a far bit less.

the R31 calipers are nothing like the commo rears. commo's use disk over drum and both are useless. R31's use disk only with cable operated park brake and are self adjusting. the park brakes is sufficient but not as good as drums (they never are).

hope this helps.

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qik1000
Posted: 2011/4/23 13:08  Updated: 2011/4/23 13:08
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Oh, one other thing. you might want to consider wheel stud length. the u12 disk slip over the wheel studs before the wheel goes on as you can see in the photo - just like the rotating part of the drum brake. with the some rims the studs are a bit too short for comfort in my opinion.

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D
Posted: 2011/4/24 9:32  Updated: 2011/4/24 12:51
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Thank you for the detailed info, its definitely in my
to do list from now on and put the sigma conversion to
rest as this setup is vented and looks a zillion bucks.
When you have a chance Ill be interested in the line
drawing as this is the conversion that has stumped me
for over a decade. Ive heard of it and always wanted
to know how it was performed. Lots of cheers again
another big custom 1k mystery bites the dust!!!

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qik1000
Posted: 2011/4/24 12:05  Updated: 2011/4/24 12:05
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Ok D. I'll hunt around and see if I can find it. I'll let you know tomorrow.

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D
Posted: 2011/4/24 12:54  Updated: 2011/4/24 12:54
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Please in your own time no hurry,
Its been over a decade that Ive been
using the sigma setups.
I have the pintara rear disc setup
and it looks ridiculously larger
than the sigma discs. Id say there is
20mm difference. 229 vs around 254mm

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qik1000
Posted: 2011/5/15 6:51  Updated: 2011/5/15 6:51
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 Re: Disks on KB10
Alright D. I've found a heap of pics and the cad file from when I did this job.
Whats your email address and I'll send them to you.

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D
Posted: 2011/7/7 11:26  Updated: 2011/7/7 11:26
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 Re: Disks on KB10
DanieSan still waiting for cad files or you can use photobucket to put them up on this thread as its your
creation and contribution to the 1000 world