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Main : Mechanical : Engine Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series

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Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
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kululadotgroen
Posted: 2008/11/4 11:02  Updated: 2008/11/4 11:02
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
I'll bet even their bore centres are different, and apart from that I don't know what Japanese engineer will take a piece of British kak and base his engine design on that, doesn't make sense.

It's like people trying to convince me that they stole the 4AGE engine design from the Ford BDA/Cosworth motor.

One can see aesthetic similarities between many engines, and other things, but that doesn't mean they were based on each other. There's so many differences technically, that it's actually a joke to even consider saying that they are based on each other.

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2008/11/5 0:24  Updated: 2008/11/5 0:24
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
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I don't know what Japanese engineer will take a piece of British kak and base his engine design on that
How about the Japanese engineer that is improving the Austin engine?

Remember, Nissan produced more than 20,000 Austin engines, before they created the J and A engines. Is the A a "clean sheet" design? Or is it partially based on the previous engines? Including the bore centers. The Austin rocker cover even fits... except for location of bolt holes.

I count two degrees of separation between Austin engine design and Nissan A engine.

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ROConnor
Posted: 2008/11/3 0:12  Updated: 2008/11/3 0:12
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
I think it's the j series from 410,411 and 60's 1200 ute's and stuff thats motor is verry similer as these two look nothing a'like

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Dundee1000
Posted: 2008/11/3 0:22  Updated: 2008/11/3 0:22
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
well Derrrr.. one is red and one is green... LMAO..

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2008/11/3 1:40  Updated: 2008/11/3 1:40
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
Well with a camshaft on the opposite side of the block & an internal oil pump in one, & external on the other being only minor & insignificant differences so I guess they are pretty much the same.

Well after all they are both liquid cooled inline four cylinder internal combustion engines. Surely that's close enough isn't it?

In reality there is NOTHING of the BMC design that was used in the Datsun A series engine.

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ddgonzal
Posted: 2008/11/3 5:56  Updated: 2008/11/3 5:56
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
Yes, the Datsun A-series is obviously not based directly on the Austin A-series.

Austin A -> E-series -> J-series -> A-series. So our Datsun 1200 engine is three generations more modern.

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cheater_5
Posted: 2008/11/3 8:39  Updated: 2008/11/3 8:39
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
a > e > j > austin a

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Dodgeman
Posted: 2008/11/3 12:37  Updated: 2008/11/3 12:37
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
If using the six degrees of separation rule we can link the Datsun A series engine pretty much to the 1928 Chevrolet engine.
Both are OHV liquid cooled inline four cylinder engines with a single carb & two valves per cylinder. Both had a Kettering ignition system with the distributor driven by the cam, a water pump, oil pump & both rotated clockwise when viewed from the front & both had a three bearing crank. [the original A10 had three main bearings] The Chevrolet even had a cross flow design cylinder head.
A much modified 1926 based Chevrolet 4 cylinder engine was used on the salt to crack it for 140mph [225.302kph] in 1940 & I don't know how many A series Mowog's or Datsuns are up for that little task, unblown, on 82 octane fuel today.

See, same basic engine design.
The A series datsun was an all new, ... clean sheet of paper design that owes nothing to the British design other than an abject lesson in what NOT to include in a new engine design.

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revhead001
Posted: 2008/11/3 21:38  Updated: 2008/11/3 21:38
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 Re: Datsun A-series vs. Austin A-series
Surely even a 'What not to do or include to improve' could be considered a link?