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Re: who here runs a locker?
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Had one of those in a 57 Customline behind a 428 and toploader back when I was a boy.
Magic diff but my god were they expensive. Think it cost me six weeks pay, secondhand.

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yeh i have fitted heaps to country energy trucks! obviously alot bigger then a car diff but they cost around $4k lol

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maybe this is the spring loaded locker?

www.phantomgrip.com

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I've never seen a detroit locker unit, and assumed they are the same as an open diff when unlocked. For what you're saying to be true, the Detroit centre would have to completely disconnect one axle from the crownwheel - is that what happens in there?
Well, since this is a resurrected thread I might as well reply to Harry's question that I missed all those years ago.

The Detroit Locker does indeed disconnect the faster rotating wheel/axle from the hemisphere via the use of a dog clutch device coupled with a cam arrangement that allows disengagement.

There is no provision for slip, you have either locked 2 wheel drive, or one wheel drive.
They are staggeringly successful in 4WD applications & in drag cars but not so good for street hacks.

Take offs are recommended to be in a straight line or else you get a tiny bit of wheelspin [about 2 inches of tyre slip] Doesn't sound like much but it adds up to noticeably reduced tyre life over time.

Front tyres suffer too because the one drive wheel, when driving through a turn, particularly a long sweeper, tries to push the front in the opposite direction that you are steering. It tries to push you straight, so you need extra steering input to counter this effect. The more power you pour on, the more steering input is required.
The result is a greater slip angle on the front tyres & noticeably increased wear.

Oh yeah, do not power into a sweeper then change gear if running a Detroit Locker, the sudden loss of asymmetric thrust [via the inside wheel which is the driving wheel] means that the extra steering input that was necessary before suddenly becomes WAY too much just at the moment that you grab the gear lever & hit the clutch.
The remaining hand on the steering wheel must then correct this gross oversteer condition in a heartbeat, & the heart might just skip a beat or two while doing it.

I've driven them, Detroit's & welded diffs.
Detroit's I can handle but those who think that they can operate a welded locker on the public roads day to day & in the wet without adversely affecting operational safety are just plain delusional.

I have seen far too many who will happily tell you how well they can drive, subsequently demonstrate that they couldn't.
Leave welded diffs for legitimate off road use only.

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I agree with Dodgy's last paragraph whole heartedly,strictly competition only(if you can't afford an LSD)unless you want to intentially damage your drive train/personel health or run foul of Mr.Plod and his anti hoon legislation.

Posted on: 2011/1/23 23:46
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Okay well there looks like a majority are against the locked centre!

I'll know soon enough, I just hope it isn't nearly as bad as what you guys are saying.

Posted on: 2011/1/24 0:16
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They're a prick for parking, off-camber corners, and in the wet. Other than that they're workable but honestly they're not much fun once you get over the novelty.

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bakat wrote:
maybe this is the spring loaded locker?

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Yes, that it what I have.
Although mine is home made, not bought. It is pretty good for a street car. Although when watching video of my datto doing a spirited staging burnout, it does tend to unlock bofore I'm finished. But it does help with traction when out and out launching, or boosting round winding hills. And I'm pretty sure I can feel a bit of a "push" going around 90 degree corners, (like with a locky) but without the tyre chirping and pig-rooting that locked diffs are notorious for.

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i search on the net, many says spring loaded locker is crap, and many says it works. i guess, it depends on the spring stiffness eh?

Posted on: 2011/1/24 10:36
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Spring lockers are great for straight line work. I wouldn't go near one for a street car.

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