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Re: Beware fraudulent members?
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I was trying to, I actually meant it was a broad generalisation on the other persons part to say all ratt members are dodgey. We all know they are in Bendigo collecting bikes

Posted on: 2013/4/16 5:55
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Re: Beware fraudulent members?
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Just to add to the info here - in most states of Australia - to win a slander/defamation case, all they have to do is prove that your comments lowered the reputation of the person. The fact that the comments may be true, and can even be proven to be true DOES NOT actually count as a defence in most states. IIRC Victoria is one exception, not sure on other states but even here, it's still only a partial defence, not a guaranteed result.

Which is REALLY BAD because if some filthy low life scumbag thinks nothing of stealing from their customers, they'd also think nothing of suing them just to get the money even though they know that on an ethical level, they are about as disgusting as possible. Obviously this comment is a general statement and in no way is directed at any specific business/business owner, especially not any that may or may not have been the subject of a recently deleted thread.

Posted on: 2013/4/16 8:06
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scumbag crims sue for defamation nothing new
Yet! I had the idiot box on today and started laughing when talk show hosts on the TV morning show stated their opinion with no evidence surely prodded by NWO directives to say that it wasnt Muslims that should be blamed for the Boston explosions but radical Christians WTF! even the Police dont have this evidence and talk show hosts already slandering a group of people.
Its just like 911 when retards of the street & news reporters new more than the Police. Surely we are been setup to encourage Police States worldwide even on the internet.

Posted on: 2013/4/16 15:03
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Did you watch Dr Phil as well D?

Posted on: 2013/4/16 22:30
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What happened on ready steady cook? Did the capsicums best the tomatoes and insert the pineapple spikey end first?

Posted on: 2013/4/16 22:49
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So unfamilia asked for it to be deleted? Being in Australia, maybe he had something to fear.

Since I'm not in Australia, and neither is this web site, i'll summarize the alledgedly fraudulent experience. A friend of a club member alledgedly paid thousands up front to Dr_Datto to work on his ute. Now two years later, he alleged that the work has not been done.

The most interesting thing to me was that Dr_Datto immediately deleted an old post. For example, Dr_Datto posted the following in July 2010, but deleted it last week after the allegation was posted:
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Hi Guys

Someone gave me a heads up by email there was a post, yes we are still around just have had a nightmare few weeks, the workshop was put up for sale and were only told a few weeks ago then was sold straight away to the company next door who wanted to double the rent (even though numerous places for lease around the area) but was due to him actually wanting to use the premises so he wanted us move out straight away!

Also the house we rent close to the workshop was going up in rent when our new lease was ready to sign and my place in South Brissy is not suitable so we have found acreage not far out of town with huge workshop to combine the two, just dealing with finding something suitable and realestates as well as moving two places in a few weeks, its been around the 1am-3am mornings for us every night, finishing some customer cars to remove, moving numerous cars, some stock we had to get rid of, as you can imagine 2yrs in both places we've accumulated so much more than what we originally had and that we also went to a container auction to buy at least one to store more parts.

Plus to top it all off our vodafone mobiles don't work out of town and had to divert our 1300 number to them till Telstra even gets our landline on (which we're now told next week) and then to work out which way to go with internet & currently i'm trying to get on the net at work to check as much as possible, but luckily we've had our mobiles transferred as of this morning to Telstra, but also my boss is cutting three car yards down to two bigger ones and renting out the rest and after 9yrs in the same office I'm on the move to Moorooka next week from Springwood...so also having 8am to after 6pm weeks at work as well heading south at night to move more boxes etc so we still haven't finished and we've had a couple of days of heavy rain! then the reorganising & cleaning will begin!

Definately will be glad when it's all over but some things happen for a reason & we're looking to a better life & business when we get all back & running properly (and maybe a holiday here and there for the both of us instead of 24/7 late nights) even through the stress of it all as the owner of the property also has had dramas getting out and back to his place & still has stuff there and after finally getting the keys on the weekend instead of living in a house of boxes which I have numerous bruises from trying to get around we're starting to see the light at the end of tunnel & already starting to appreciate our decision.

I'm so sorry if anyone is delayed with items as I absolutely hate inconveniencing any of our customers.

Will hopefully have internet set up also over the next couple of weeks.

So if anyone has enquires please phone ... & it is set up on diversion (at our cost) to another Telstra mobile that is now in service.

Our deepest apologies, Kerrie

I would expect any person of good faith not try to delete facts. But perhaps it wasn't a fact or there was some other reason to delete a two-plus year old post.

Dr. Datto's business information, including address and phone number, are available on various web sites. It is public information.

Posted on: 2013/4/16 23:15
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How come ddgonzal/moderator has not commented on this thread. Its unfortunate that one could get ripped off so easily. I wouldnt want to lose this 1200 forum but I think the deletion of genuine complaint/warning threads is just WRONG!! However if moderator felt that it may have had some legal ramifications then it can be excused. Lets enjoy the forum, thats why we're here anyway!!

Posted on: 2013/4/16 23:28
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Re: Beware fraudulent members?
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I have nothing to fear dd, the member also updates their signature I noticed when they were on line at same time. I looked up and yes in Australia there could be ramifications legally for those who posted options which may be defamatory.

I thought I was impartial trying to get more facts. I didn't ask for the thread to be deleted directly but suggested to moderators it should be for possible litigious ramifications for individuals and possibly the site hosts.

Posted on: 2013/4/17 2:21
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Um ramifications for opinions I still feel is unlikely as we are not a massive reader or subscriber entity like Facebook or a freedom of speech site that scares the big wigs like Twitter. At the same time communication is very important and if a victim receives none its very frustrating.

Dr Phil? does he look like an old otherwise grey Cliff Richard with curly brown died hair?

At least Obama puppet has enlightened us that the Boston Bombing was a terrorist act as we wouldnt recognise that without him, we laughed with friend staying over the idiots on the idiot box during breakfast, their insight only an hour or so after it happened that is was an effort by Christian Supremist group or indivdual that'll bring on a Police State to the US, yet will they get sued by Christian Supremists? ummm doubt it.

Atm there are too many rules setup to encourage fraudulent workshops & individuals.

Posted on: 2013/4/17 4:23
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