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| Early 1200 use [[Alternator]] with external [[Voltage regulator]]. Later 1200s (from 1981) use an Internally Regulated (IR) Alternator. | Early 1200 use [[Alternator]] with external [[Voltage regulator]]. Later 1200s (from 1981) use an Internally Regulated (IR) Alternator. | ||
| = Overview = | = Overview = | ||
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23630 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23630.jpg] | + | B110 alternator is 35A and has plastic cover on back |
| + | <br>{{Album|24375}} | ||
| - | = Early 1200 = | + | 1980s 1200 is still 35A but uses internal regulator (IC REG) |
| - | Our Datsun B110 used -- as with most 1964-1974 cars -- an [[Alternator]] with external [[Voltage regulator]]. | + | <br>{{Album|24756}} |
| - | Voltage Regulator Pinout | + | Both use the same T-connector, but IC REG alternator socket is additionally notched |
| - | <br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/1V1250_pinout.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/th_1V1250_pinout.jpg] | + | <br>{{PhotoTh!|LRplug.jpg}} {{PhotoTh!|FNplug.jpg}} |
| - | [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/1V1250_pinout.jpg Wiring Diagram] | + | Datsun used the simple T-connector, but the NipponDenso C900 style can also be used. The locking tab prevents the connector from falling out. |
| - | <br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/25445.jpg</img> | + | <br>{{Photo2|C900.jpg}} |
| - | '''Alternator Connections''' | + | = Early 1200 = |
| - | <table border='1' class='inner' cellspacing='2'> | + | Our Datsun B110 used -- as with most 1964-1974 cars -- an [[Alternator]] with external [[Voltage regulator]]. |
| - | <tr bgcolor="ccccff"><td>terminal</td><td>Color</td><td>Logical Connections</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>A (Alternator)</td><td>WR or W</td><td>* To Battery + terminal through the [[Fusible Link]]<br>* To Regulator "A" terminal (W wire)</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>F (Field)</td><td>WB</td><td>* To Regulator "F" terminal</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>N (neutral point)</td><td>Y</td><td>* To Regulator "N" terminal<br>* To electric choke relay Y wire</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>E (Earth/ground)</td><td>B</td><td>* To body ground<br>* To Regulator "E" terminal</td></tr> | + | |
| - | </table> | + | |
| + | {{Album|25445}} | ||
| - | '''Regulator Connections''' | + | '''Alternator Connections'''<table class="wiki_table" style="width:600px;"> |
| - | <table border='1' class='inner' cellspacing='2'> | + | <tr><th>terminal</th><th>Color</th><th>Logical Connections</th></tr> |
| - | <tr bgcolor="ccccff"><td>terminal</td><td>Color</td><td>Logical Connections</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>A (Alternator)</td><td>W</td><td>* To Battery + terminal through the [[Fusible Link]]<br>* To Regulator "A" terminal (W wire)</td></tr> |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>A (Alternator)</td><td>W</td><td>* To Alternator "A" terminal (WR or W)</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>F (Field)</td><td>WB</td><td>* To Regulator "F" terminal</td></tr> |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>F (Field)</td><td>WB</td><td>* To Alternator "F" terminal</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>N (neutral point)</td><td>Y</td><td>* To Regulator "N" terminal<br>* To electric choke relay Y wire</td></tr> |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>N (neutral point)</td><td>Y</td><td>* To Alternator "N" terminal<br>* To electric choke relay Y wire</td></tr> | + | <tr><td>E (Earth/ground)</td><td>B</td><td>* To body ground<br>* To Regulator "E" terminal</td></tr> |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>E (Earth)</td><td>B</td><td>* To body ground<br>* To Alternator "E" terminal</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>IG (ignition)</td><td>WL (72: W?)</td><td>* To fuse box "M" terminal (does not go through IGN switch)</td></tr> | + | |
| - | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>L (Light)</td><td>WR</td><td>* To dash light "IGN" ('72, '73) or "CHG" (1971)</td></tr> | + | |
| </table> | </table> | ||
| - | Hitachi LT-series uses the typical 1970s Hitachi T-shaped connector: | + | Alternator uses the typical 1970s T-shaped connector: |
| F Field - stem of Tee | F Field - stem of Tee | ||
| N Neutral point - head of Tee | N Neutral point - head of Tee | ||
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| + | '''Regulator Connections'''<table class="wiki_table" style="width:600px;"> | ||
| + | <tr><th>terminal</th><th>Color</th><th>Logical Connections</th></tr> | ||
| + | <tr><td>A (Alternator)</td><td>W</td><td>* To Alternator "A" terminal (W)</td></tr> | ||
| + | <tr><td>F (Field)</td><td>WB</td><td>* To Alternator "F" terminal</td></tr> | ||
| + | <tr><td>N (neutral point)</td><td>Y</td><td>* To Alternator "N" terminal<br>* To electric choke relay Y wire</td></tr> | ||
| + | <tr><td>E (Earth)</td><td>B</td><td>* To body ground<br>* To Alternator "E" terminal</td></tr> | ||
| + | <tr bgcolor=f0f0f0><td>IG (ignition)</td><td>WL</td><td>* To fuse box "M" terminal (does not go through IGN switch)</td></tr> | ||
| + | <tr><td>L (Light)</td><td>WR</td><td>* To dash light "IGN" ('72, '73) or "CHG" (1971)</td></tr> | ||
| + | </table> | ||
| + | |||
| + | Voltage Regulator Pinout | ||
| + | <br>{{Photo!|1V1250_pinout.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts2|width=SM}} | ||
| + | Wire Color | ||
| + | WR Lamp (to dash lamp) | ||
| + | W Positive (12V from Fusible Link) | ||
| + | Y Stator (Neutral point, tee-connector N) | ||
| + | B Ground (Earth to horn bracket) | ||
| + | WB Field (Tee-connector F) | ||
| + | WL Ignition ([[Fuse Box|'M' fuse]]) | ||
| = Late-model Alternator = | = Late-model Alternator = | ||
| - | Datsun 1200 from 1981 (Japan-market models) use an internally-regulated Hitachi [[Hitachi LR Alternator|LR Alternator]] or equivalent. | + | Datsun 1200 from 1981 (Japan-market models) use an internally-regulated Hitachi [[Hitachi LR Alternator|LR Alternator]] or equivalent. The LR135 has LS wiring like many modern Japanese alternators. The L-terminal goes to the CHG lamp, and the S-terminal goes to either IGN or straight to the battery. |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24517 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/24517.jpg] | + | {{Album|24517}} |
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| + | {{Album|24374}} | ||
| == Using in Older 1200 == | == Using in Older 1200 == | ||
| The LR135 is a bolt-in replacement for the LT135 BUT you must modify the wiring slightly. | The LR135 is a bolt-in replacement for the LT135 BUT you must modify the wiring slightly. | ||
| - | See main article: [[IR Alternator Conversion Wiring]] | + | See main article: [[IR Alternator Conversion Wiring]] |
| - | == B310 North America == | + | = Engine Swaps = |
| - | Datsun 210 uses an internally-regulated [[Hitachi LR Alternator|Hitachi LR-150]] alternator. | + | See main article: [[Basic Alternator Wiring]] |
| - | Also see [[Hitachi_LR_Alternator#Wiring|Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring]] | + | = How the Alternator Dash Light Works = |
| + | The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of either the external regulator or alternator. A relay turns the dash lamp on/off. | ||
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24524 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24524.jpg] | + | * When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at ground/earth, so the dash light turns on |
| + | * Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at full voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at same voltage) | ||
| - | Black: earth/ground | + | <blockquote>WARNING: If the dash lamp is burned out, the alternator does not work. The lamp circuit is used to start the alternator.</blockquote> |
| - | White: battery via Fusible Link (large wire) | + | |
| - | White/Red: dash CHG lamp | + | |
| - | While: battery via Fusible Link (small wire) | + | |
| - | = Engine Swaps = | + | == External Regulator == |
| - | See main article: [[Basic Alternator Wiring]] | + | The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of the external regulator. A relay inside the [[Voltage Regulator]] turns the dash lamp on/off. |
| - | = How the Alternator Dash Light Works = | ||
| - | The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of the external regulator. | ||
| * When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at '-' voltage, so the dash light turns on | * When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at '-' voltage, so the dash light turns on | ||
| * Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at + voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at +) | * Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at + voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at +) | ||
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| This also is connected to the F (field) connection of the alternator, so it "turns on" the alternator. It is the switched 12V (through the lamp) that kick starts the alternator fields. | This also is connected to the F (field) connection of the alternator, so it "turns on" the alternator. It is the switched 12V (through the lamp) that kick starts the alternator fields. | ||
| - | WARNING: This mean that if the dash lamp | + | == Internal Regulator == |
| - | is burned out, the alternator does not work | + | Internally regulated Hitachi LR alternators (S-L type) use the L terminal to turn the dash lamp on and off, using a transistorized switch inside the alternator. |
| = Automatic Choke Relay = | = Automatic Choke Relay = | ||
| On Datsuns equipped with an electric [[Automatic Choke]], a relay is used so that the choke heater is activated only when the engine is running. | On Datsuns equipped with an electric [[Automatic Choke]], a relay is used so that the choke heater is activated only when the engine is running. | ||
| - | See main article: [[Electric Choke Wiring]] | + | See main article: [[Electric Choke Wiring]] |
| + | {{End}}[[Category:Charging System]][[Category:Wiring]] | ||
Current revision
Early 1200 use Alternator with external Voltage regulator. Later 1200s (from 1981) use an Internally Regulated (IR) Alternator.
Contents |
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Overview
B110 alternator is 35A and has plastic cover on back
1980s 1200 is still 35A but uses internal regulator (IC REG)
Both use the same T-connector, but IC REG alternator socket is additionally notched
Datsun used the simple T-connector, but the NipponDenso C900 style can also be used. The locking tab prevents the connector from falling out.
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Early 1200
Our Datsun B110 used -- as with most 1964-1974 cars -- an Alternator with external Voltage regulator.
| terminal | Color | Logical Connections |
|---|---|---|
| A (Alternator) | W | * To Battery + terminal through the Fusible Link * To Regulator "A" terminal (W wire) |
| F (Field) | WB | * To Regulator "F" terminal |
| N (neutral point) | Y | * To Regulator "N" terminal * To electric choke relay Y wire |
| E (Earth/ground) | B | * To body ground * To Regulator "E" terminal |
Alternator uses the typical 1970s T-shaped connector: F Field - stem of Tee N Neutral point - head of TeeRegulator Connections
| terminal | Color | Logical Connections |
|---|---|---|
| A (Alternator) | W | * To Alternator "A" terminal (W) |
| F (Field) | WB | * To Alternator "F" terminal |
| N (neutral point) | Y | * To Alternator "N" terminal * To electric choke relay Y wire |
| E (Earth) | B | * To body ground * To Alternator "E" terminal |
| IG (ignition) | WL | * To fuse box "M" terminal (does not go through IGN switch) |
| L (Light) | WR | * To dash light "IGN" ('72, '73) or "CHG" (1971) |
Voltage Regulator Pinout
Wire Color WR Lamp (to dash lamp) W Positive (12V from Fusible Link) Y Stator (Neutral point, tee-connector N) B Ground (Earth to horn bracket) WB Field (Tee-connector F) WL Ignition ('M' fuse)
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Late-model Alternator
Datsun 1200 from 1981 (Japan-market models) use an internally-regulated Hitachi LR Alternator or equivalent. The LR135 has LS wiring like many modern Japanese alternators. The L-terminal goes to the CHG lamp, and the S-terminal goes to either IGN or straight to the battery.
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Using in Older 1200
The LR135 is a bolt-in replacement for the LT135 BUT you must modify the wiring slightly.
See main article: IR Alternator Conversion Wiring
[edit]
Engine Swaps
See main article: Basic Alternator Wiring
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How the Alternator Dash Light Works
The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of either the external regulator or alternator. A relay turns the dash lamp on/off.
- When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at ground/earth, so the dash light turns on
- Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at full voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at same voltage)
WARNING: If the dash lamp is burned out, the alternator does not work. The lamp circuit is used to start the alternator.
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External Regulator
The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of the external regulator. A relay inside the Voltage Regulator turns the dash lamp on/off.
- When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at '-' voltage, so the dash light turns on
- Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at + voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at +)
This also is connected to the F (field) connection of the alternator, so it "turns on" the alternator. It is the switched 12V (through the lamp) that kick starts the alternator fields.
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Internal Regulator
Internally regulated Hitachi LR alternators (S-L type) use the L terminal to turn the dash lamp on and off, using a transistorized switch inside the alternator.
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Automatic Choke Relay
On Datsuns equipped with an electric Automatic Choke, a relay is used so that the choke heater is activated only when the engine is running.
See main article: Electric Choke Wiring
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