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Bellhousing

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-All A-series engines use the same [[Transmission]] Bellhousing Pattern. This means any rwd transmission, from B10 to B310, fits any A-series engine. No other Nissan engine shares this pattern. This means transmissions from Datsun 1600 or any other will '''not''' fit an A-series engine.+All A-series engines use the same [[Engine]] Bell-pattern. This means any rwd transmission, from B10 to B310, fits any A-series engine. No other Nissan engine shares this pattern. This means transmissions from Datsun 1600 or any other will '''not''' fit an A-series engine. Note that the only A-series RWD transmission to use an actual bellhousing is the automatic, all the manuals have the bellhousing built into the front half of the transmission case.
= Overview = = Overview =
-B110 used a dust cover+A-series automatic used a bellhousing
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19059 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19059.jpg]+
 + See main article: [[Automatic#Bellhousing]]
-B210 used a rear engine plate+{{Photo!|14851.jpg}}
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13659 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/13659.jpg]+
 +A-series manual transmission did not use a bellhousing, instead the front case of the transmission bolted directly to the engine
 +<br>{{Album|19059}}
- Image to scale: 88dpi+B110 used a dust cover to cover the lower portion
- Top to bottom: 338 mm+
- center hole: 94 mm+
- Blue holes: 8 mm+
- Red holes: 8 mm+
- Green holes: 9 mm+
- Gray holes: 10 mm+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22846 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22846.jpg]R+
-= J/R =+B210 used a rear engine plate (instead of dust cover)
-J-series and R-series engines used F4W63, length unknown. Bell pattern differs from L-series. Are J and R compatible?+<br>{{Album|13659}} {{Album|22846}}
 + 
 + Engine-to-transmission flange dimension
 + 315 mm: distance between top and bottom bolts
 + 300 mm: bolt circle diameter (11.8 inch)
 + 100 mm: distance between bottom bolts
 + 106 mm: distance between top bolts, offset 5mm from centerline
 + Starter at 3:30 looking at rear of engine
 + (at 8:30 looking at transmission)
 + 
 +Dimensions
 +<br>{{Album|25422}}
 + 
 += E1/J =
 +E1 (1200) and J-series have the same block bolt pattern. However, both engines use an intermediate transmission plate, so the transmission pattern may differ.
 + 
 +J-series and R-series engines both used F4W63, length unknown. Bell pattern differs from L-series. Are J and R compatible?
= L-Series = = L-Series =
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KA has no slant KA has no slant
 +<br>{{Album|13640}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13640 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/13640.jpg]+A-series has starter at about 8:00 O'Clock position
- +<br>L-series has starter at about 9:00 O'Clock position
- A-series has starter at about 8:00 O'Clock position +<br>{{Album|22340}}
- L-series has starter at about 9:00 O'Clock position +
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22340 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/22340.jpg]+
= E/GA= = E/GA=
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= CA = = CA =
CA16 uses a smaller clutch & gearbox. CA16 uses a smaller clutch & gearbox.
- CA18 & CA20 use a factory adapter plate & larger tranmission+ CA18 & CA20 use a factory adapter plate & larger transmission
SR is reportedly compatible with some minor differences. SR is reportedly compatible with some minor differences.
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= SR = = SR =
-[http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/Silvia_Convertible/bellhousingcomparetoplabel.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/Silvia_Convertible/bellhousingcomparetoplabel.jpg]+[http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/Silvia_Convertible/bellhousingcomparetoplabel.jpg http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o107/Silvia_Convertible/th_bellhousingcomparetoplabel.jpg]
= R/H/U/SD = = R/H/U/SD =
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= QR = = QR =
 +
 +The housing pattern of the QR25DE engine is available from this image.
 +
 +{{Album|25755|png}}
 +
 +This was taken off an 06 Sentra SE-R Spec V trans, using a DRO and axial indicator on a vertical mill.
 +
 +Hole diameters were taken with dial calipers.
 +
 +This pattern is for reference only, and it is strongly advised that the measurements be verified before any use.
= RB = = RB =
RB lines up with some, but not all KA bolts. The top 3 bolts are in a different location. RB20 bellhousing on a KA block, the dowels line right up, and only 2 bolt holes need to be modified, one of them is extremely close. RB lines up with some, but not all KA bolts. The top 3 bolts are in a different location. RB20 bellhousing on a KA block, the dowels line right up, and only 2 bolt holes need to be modified, one of them is extremely close.
-<br>[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/5097693559_6815970126_z.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/5097693559_6815970126_z.jpg]+<br>[http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/5097693559_6815970126_z.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1175/5097693559_6815970126_m.jpg]
 + 
 +[[Category:Transmission]]
 +[[Category:Nissan Engines]]{{End}}

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All A-series engines use the same Engine Bell-pattern. This means any rwd transmission, from B10 to B310, fits any A-series engine. No other Nissan engine shares this pattern. This means transmissions from Datsun 1600 or any other will not fit an A-series engine. Note that the only A-series RWD transmission to use an actual bellhousing is the automatic, all the manuals have the bellhousing built into the front half of the transmission case.

Contents

Overview

A-series automatic used a bellhousing

See main article: Automatic#Bellhousing

14851.jpg

A-series manual transmission did not use a bellhousing, instead the front case of the transmission bolted directly to the engine
19059.jpgAlbum 19059

B110 used a dust cover to cover the lower portion

B210 used a rear engine plate (instead of dust cover)
13659.jpgAlbum 13659 22846.jpgAlbum 22846

Engine-to-transmission flange dimension
315 mm: distance between top and bottom bolts
300 mm: bolt circle diameter (11.8 inch)
100 mm: distance between bottom bolts
106 mm: distance between top bolts, offset 5mm from centerline
Starter at 3:30 looking at rear of engine
       (at 8:30 looking at transmission)

Dimensions
25422.jpgAlbum 25422

E1/J

E1 (1200) and J-series have the same block bolt pattern. However, both engines use an intermediate transmission plate, so the transmission pattern may differ.

J-series and R-series engines both used F4W63, length unknown. Bell pattern differs from L-series. Are J and R compatible?

L-Series

L-series bells are the same six-cylinder to four-cylinder

L-series will interchange with Z-series, but L has considerably more slant. Best to use the correct one.

KA has no slant
13640.jpgAlbum 13640

A-series has starter at about 8:00 O'Clock position
L-series has starter at about 9:00 O'Clock position
22340.jpgAlbum 22340

E/GA

E-series and GA-series bell patterns interchange. It is similar to the A-series and will bolt to an A12, but some of the bolts do NOT line up.

Z/VG/KA

These are all identical.

NOTE: L-series is same but slanted. 

CA

CA16 uses a smaller clutch & gearbox. 
CA18 & CA20 use a factory adapter plate & larger transmission

SR is reportedly compatible with some minor differences.

GA is compatible with the CA bell (less adpater)

SR

th_bellhousingcomparetoplabel.jpg

R/H/U/SD

The SD engine bell is the same as all the R, H and U-series engine (R16, H16, U20). They share the same block.

QR

The housing pattern of the QR25DE engine is available from this image.

25755.pngAlbum 25755

This was taken off an 06 Sentra SE-R Spec V trans, using a DRO and axial indicator on a vertical mill.

Hole diameters were taken with dial calipers.

This pattern is for reference only, and it is strongly advised that the measurements be verified before any use.

RB

RB lines up with some, but not all KA bolts. The top 3 bolts are in a different location. RB20 bellhousing on a KA block, the dowels line right up, and only 2 bolt holes need to be modified, one of them is extremely close.
5097693559_6815970126_m.jpg 

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