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| Also see: [[Keys]] | Also see: [[Keys]] | ||
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| - | 3-position early JDM switch vs later 5-position switch: | + | How To Use: see [[Instruments and Controls#Ignition Switch]] |
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| + | 3-position JDM switch vs OPTION 5-position switch: | ||
| <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22007 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22007.jpg] | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22007 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22007.jpg] | ||
| <br>Early JDM switches have "Garage" position. | <br>Early JDM switches have "Garage" position. | ||
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| <br>Note addition of ACC position. | <br>Note addition of ACC position. | ||
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| - | 1972 USA Owners manual (see page 11): | ||
| - | <br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/owners_manual/1972 http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/owners_manual/1972/th_00_cover.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/owners_manual/1972/11.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/owners_manual/1972/th_11.jpg]<blockquote><hr>The "ACC" (accessories) position of the switch permits you to use all of the electrical accessories.<hr></blockquote> | ||
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| Portugal market: | Portugal market: | ||
| <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22008 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22008.jpg] | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22008 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22008.jpg] | ||
| - | <br> Interruptor de ignićāo [Ignition switch] | + | Interruptor de ignićāo [Ignition switch] |
| - | <br> Desligado [Disconnected] | + | Desligado [OFF] |
| - | <br> Ligado [Connected] | + | Ligado [ON] |
| - | <br> Arranque [Start] | + | Arranque [START] |
| = Standard Type = | = Standard Type = | ||
Revision as of 01:46, 9 May 2015
The Datsun 1200 ignition switch is also known as an "Ignition Starter Switch". For STD models, it is integrated into the Key lock switch. For Super DX and higher grades, it bolts to the back of the key cylinder.
Also see: Keys
Contents |
Variations
How To Use: see Instruments and Controls#Ignition Switch
3-position JDM switch vs OPTION 5-position switch:
Early JDM switches have "Garage" position.
5-position switch vs 4-position switch:
Note addition of ACC position.
Portugal market:
Interruptor de ignićāo [Ignition switch] Desligado [OFF] Ligado [ON] Arranque [START]
Standard Type
STD and some DX models used a non-locking steering column. The ignition switch was mounted via bracket on the dash.
The key lock cylinder and ignition switch were one unit.
Early units had a 3-connector ignition switch. Later units had four connectors.
STD 1200s and DX built for Japan market have a dash-mounted switch (instead of steering column-mounted). The lock & ignition switch are integrated with only two or three spade terminals on the switch.
SWITCH-IGNITION for NON-STEERING LOCK 25150-H2500 SWITCH COMP.-ignition PB110 DX 25150-H1000 SWITCH COMP.-ignition & starter (up to '71-3) 25150-H1010 SWITCH COMP.-ignition & starter (from '73-8) 25150-G1001 SWITCH COMP.-ignition & starter (up to '78-3)
3-terminal
4-terminal keyed 25150-G1001
Steering Lock Type
A locking steering column was a Datsun 1200 OPTION for early STD and DX models. It was standard equipment for USA 1200s, JDM GL and GX, and newer JDM 1200 pickups. The body of the steering lock is the same LHD vs RHD and early vs late. But the removable lock barrel, face plate and ignition switch differ. In particular, USA locks have a 2-wire connector for the key buzzer, while Japan locks say "Garage" on them.
In all 1200s -- both RHD and LHD -- it bolts to the right side of the steering column.
The body is cast 'KV-1'
'KV-1' cast at the saddle
48700-M1060
KV-1
A new lock comes with break-off bolts. Once tightened, the heads break off. To remove it requires tapping the bolts out slowly, or using a hacksaw to cut grooves in the lock.
48700-M1010 - early style without ACC position
The actual electrical ignition switch for this type is removable, and bolts to the back of the key cylinder. In other words, the Ignition Switch is not strictly part of the Lock Cylinder, but connects to it. A rectangular wire connector from the dash harness attaches to the ignition switch.
or 
Fitment of ignition switch into ASSY-LOCK STEERING
USA Left: 1972-1973 5-position, Right: 1971 4-position
USA Lock Comparison - No ACC position for 1971. It also uses a different ignition switch.
4-position * Single-sided Key, differs from door keys * Takes small one-lug ignition switch
5-position * Double-sided Key, same as door key * Takes large two-lug ignition switch
48700-H1600 Early JDM with 'Garage' position and single-sided key
Lock Part Numbers
STEERING LOCK ASSEMBLY JAPAN 48700-H1600 ASS'Y LOCK, steering (3-position) (up to '71-Mar.) (Op.) ALL * 48750-H2000 ASS'Y-SWITCH, ignition 48700-H2010 ASS'Y LOCK, steering (4-position) (from '71-Apr.) (Op.) ALL 48700-H2010 ASS'Y LOCK, steering (4-position) GX * 48750-H1900 ASS'Y-SWITCH, ignition 48700-M1010 LOCK ASS'Y-steering [1972] GL, GX <> 48700-H2010 ** Also used by Cherry E10 <> 48700-H2020 * 48700-H2010 7510-7803 * 48700-G1060 7804-8210 S/#48700-H5010 * 48700-G1925 8211- USA * 48700-H1900 ASSY-LOCK STEERING $217 USD * 48700-H1901 ASSY-LOCK,STEERING(5 POINT) 0471- 0 48700-H1900 $156 USD
Key Lock
Removable lock barrel
Standard Motor Products 1200 US-168L
Standard Motor Products US169L {#1472GAS, 88922033, E1459A} 7-tumbler
AC/Delco E1499A {#88921918}
Short Type Lock
B210
JDM B210 steering lock looks similar to B110 version.
48700-H5000 and 48700-H5010
(racer135- my RHD 1978 B120 uses a similar black 5-position key/steering lock barrel as the USA 1972-1973 mentioned earlier, albeit with a small single-lug switch with 5 terminals as pictured above. It may be exactly the same as the one above but there aren't enough photos to confirm. Also, when the start position spring failed in the switch, I replaced it with the switch from a Mazda 1000 ute I had for parts, which just happened to have the exact same switch!)
USA B210 steering lock is totally different. Clamps at mid-barrel instead of end. 48700-H6200 pictured with Ignition Switch attached.
Switch Part Numbers
ELECTRICAL IGNITION SWITCH 48750-H1900 for STEERING LOCK -7803 48750-E7705 ASSY-SWITCH IGNITION (5 POINT) 0471- USA 0 48750-H190048750-E4700 for STEERING LOCK 7804- * Small type, same as 1980-1982 USA 720 1972-1973 USA * ACDelco E1406 $38 O'Reillys * Beck/Arnley 2011174 Rockauto $24
Interchange
Later 1200 switches interchange with Datsun B310 and several other Datsun models, but not B210.
Ignition Switch Comparison
- B110 Small size ~28mm diameter
- B110 Large size ~34mm diameter
TIP: On the back of the switch, each contact is marked ('S', 'IG', etc. molded into the plastic). Double-check before replacing to ensure they are the same.
The larger-diameter switch has two mounting lugs and is used with Keylocks that have an ACC position. 1972 and 1973 1200s use this, all the way up to 1982 B310.
The small-diameter switch has one bolting lug. And has only four spade terminals without ACC position. It was used on Japan 1200s (USA only for 1971).
Beck/Arnley 2011174 Fits:
- Subaru
- 1982-1987 Brat
- 1986-1987 GL
- 1980-1984 DL
- 1980 GLF
- 1980 GL
- 1980-1987 Standard
- Datsun
- 1968-1973 510
- 1970-1978 240Z, 260Z, 280Z
- 1979-1983 280ZX
- 1972-1973 1200 (B110)
- 1979-1982 210 (B310)
- 1978-1981 510 (A10)
- 1977-1981 810 (Bluebird)
- 1982-1983 Maxima (910 Bluebird)
- 1979-1982 310 (N10)
- 1977-1983 200SX (S10)
ACDelco E1406 ignition switch also fits:
- Same as Beck/Arnley 2011174 except B110 and except Subaru
- 1979 Datsun 620
- 1980-1982 Datsun 720
B210
B210 ignition switch does not interchange with B110 per the parts catalogs.
Top: early B110. Bottom: B210
It looks like it would plug into the Small B110 harness, but is wired differently. Beware!
- AIRTEX 1S6174
- ACDelco E1478A Rockauto
- Datsun
- 1974-1978 B210
- 1973-1976 610
- 1975-1977 710
- 1976-1978 F10
- Subaru
- 1985-1989 DL, GL
- 1985-1987 GL-10
- 1987 Standard
- Datsun
Wiring
Also see: Ignition Coil Wiring
The 1971 switch has four spade terminals. The 1972 and newer adds the "Accessory" position and so has five spade terminals.
The two wires at the front of the Lock Cylinder are for the Warning Buzzer system.
| W | B (Battery) |
| BW | IG (ignition/Run) |
| BW (LW for B210) | ACC (Accessory)
Not present on 1971 switch |
| BY (YB for B210) | S (start) |
| BR | R (resistor) |
The switch in the picture with the wires has differently colored wires (WR, L, BL, BW, BY). From these colors and position, I think it is the same wiring as the B310 switch, just different colors.
ACC on the Ignition Switch feeds only the Radio and the Rear Defroster.
| Off | no connections |
| Accessory | Battery (hot) to ACC |
| Run | Battery (hot) to ACC + IG |
| Start | Battery (hot) to IG + Resistor + Start\* |
| switch terminal | Connects to ... |
| IG (ignition/run) | This connects to two things:
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| S (start) |
On automatic cars*, this goes through the "Neutral Switch". |
| B (battery/hot) |
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| R (resistor) |
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| ACC (accessory) |
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Common Problems
Start Problems
Ever had the "sometime it doesn't operate the Starter until I turn the key back and forth a few times" problem?
This occurs because the relatively high current loads of the starter solenoid tend to burn the ignition switch Start contacts after some years. This only gets worse. You might think you could prevent this problem by using a relay. The S wire could go to to a relay, and the relay could go from the Main Fuse to the starter. The problem is if the relay sticks, you won't be able to turn it off with the key. To prevent this, you could use two relays, with the main power fed through a relay connected to the IG terminal of the switch. Then if the starter relay sticks, you could turn key to ACC or OFF to stop it.
It is easiest just to replace the switch.
Another common issue is when the key is turned to the 'start' position, and it does not spring back to the 'on' position when the key is released. The switch needs to be replaced in this situation also.
Starts but does not Run
"It will crank and catch fire when key turned to Start, but dies as soon as I release the key to the ON position"
The coil is getting Start current, but not Run current. Causes may include:
- Ballast Resistor is burned open. It is only use to Run, but not to Start
- Wiring is loose or bad on ballast resistor
- Ignition Switch is bad. START position works, but ON does not
Testing
You can test the ignition switch with an ohmmter, which is the most direct way. A test light will work too but needs a voltage feed.
- Pull the wiring connector off the back of the ignition switch
- Unscrew the ignition switch from bracket (early/STD 1200s) or rear of the key lock cylinder (Steering Lock 1200s)
- Check ohms between S and B terminals. Should be infinite ohms (no reading)
Turn switch with screwdriver to Start and hold it there. Ohms between S and B should be 0 ohms. If it does not test out correctly, get another ignition switch.
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