im replying to what d said. and as for the ego. im sick of everyone saying you cant mod plate a rotary in a datsun. the topic started about how much the engine weight. if the kid wants to put a 12a in a 1000 then let him. dont talk him out of it.

Thanks 44lex. This is interesting stuff, D have you put a rotary in a 1000 before? Asking in regards to the exhaust mani clearance.

hey buddy. on ausrotary in members rides there is a guy who put a 12a in a datsun 1000 wagon. www.ausrotary.com
you need to be a memeber to see members rides tho champ

44Lex - If you ever owned and put a rotary in a 1000
which I have, youd be able to pass judgement but since
you never have and youve never raced a ca18det you must
take care of the ballooning between the ears.
I think the bigger mirror would be needed for yourself :).
Also on Ausrotor no one has finished one yet with a rotor.
http://www.ausrotary.com/viewtopic.ph ... tsun+1000+rotary#p2016296
When they do then we shall see if its worthwhile.
A turbo a15 properly well setup will still be a better choice.

DD- rotors eat mufflers for snacks and a 1000 has little
room for the mufflers required to make it legal let alone
be able to be engineered due to new capacity law limits.

this is mainly to 44lex, but anyone that can help me would be much appreciated.. ive got a 1200 ute that im rebuilding and doing an engine upgrade while im at it. i got a series 3 rx7 from a mate pretty cheap wiht a 13b in it. which i have taken out and is going into the ute. ive got the motor sitting in the ute, had to cut a fair bit out of the tunnel and on the left a bit more for the starter motor. i also got engine and gearbox mounts off a guy on ebay for the front of the 13b. do you have any advise for me about this? such as which brakes to use and all that to get it engineered. if you dont mind sending me a pm with any info you can it would be very helpful to me.

and elemental_funk, good choice with the rotor, ive had a few people try to talk me out of it but ive stuck with it and hope it all goes well.

thanks guys

D i see ur a datto master. which also means ur a keyboard master aswell. ive put a rotary in a 1200 ute before. i think you need to read the topic a little more

hey buddy. on ausrotary in members rides there is a guy who put a 12a in a datsun 1000 wagon. www.ausrotary.com
you need to be a memeber to see members rides tho champ
before you post.

did i say anywhere above the guy has finished it. NO. it states the is another guy is doing the build. so if the guy needs any help he can reference it

yer i have raced a fair few 1200 utes with ca18det in them and smoked them every time.

as for the ballooning affect between the ears. i more then happy to meet you buddy. see who will end up with a baloon between the ears.

this topic is about 12a rotaries into a datsun 1000. so keep it that way

as for rotors and exhuasts you really have no idea. if you put a #OOPS# resignator on the car then ofcourse it will eat them out. put a rotorflow muffler on and you will have no problem.

If the conversion you mention is not finished its self explanatory.
You dont know crap if a 12a is an easy conversion in a 1000.
If you look at the pics on Ausrotor you see a little of whats involved but
theres lots of work/obstacles that need addressing.
Your words are just words you smoked ca18de 1200 is just that words
of a real keyboard warrior. If you want respect you need facts.
Surely in a straight line a proper 12a turbo will win but datsun are
for more than straight lines, it also depends on the budget and
how you are willing to go.
Datsuns are for tinkerers usually who want a quick car with little money
and although a **rotaflo** (not rotorflow) will last max 6-10 months and $500
its not going to fit easy under a 1000 unless its a wagon and the spare
wheel is put somewhere else. You have to re-pack them with the right stainless
instead of the FRP they use and then still burn them out.

You have to know the difference in 1000 cars to comment.
Once you lower a 1000 you really cant have anything underneath that looks
like a muffler meaning all has to be aft the diff which where the fuel
tank is on a coupe, the spare on a wagon or a spare well which needs cutting
out to make way for the mufflers if two are required which is usually the
case with rotors.

Also what are the engineering issues in NSW, as Vic is now very tough.
2.5 x weight for turbos and 3 x weight for NA.

Its not all about power and the Ca18 or turbo a15 will be better balanced
solutions that are cheaper to start and complete.

So why do rotors "eat out" regular mufflers? Is it because the exhaust temperatures are so much higher than a piston engine? Does this only apply to bridgeported rotaries or do even stock rotories need a special muffler.

I didn't hear anyone say it was an easy conversion.

DD yeah more heat hence they do so well when boosted.
Even my standard 13b used to burn out normal mufflers.
1000 have way less room than an r100 so firewalls are big and ugly to try and
fit a normal sized exhaust.
A CA on the other hand requires very little fire wall mods in comparison.
Im trying to save other 1000 going this route as they will end up unfinished projects that go around and around until someone puts a piston engine back in
at best or scrapheap at worse.

for starters the guy wants to put a standard 12a in his car not a 12a turbo. so the mods there are totally different already to what u think

whats power does a standard ca18det make.
a standard 13b turbo from a series 5 rx7 will make 280hp at the wheels. i think that in any datsun is a handfull

if you have so much trouble with a exhuast why does grandmah still drive around in her 1973 model rx3 with the original muffler on it. or pretty much every original rx7 you see.

and if you READ above ive posted a link for tips for the guy wanting to put a 12a in a 1000.

as for putting the exhuast somewhere thats all part of doing a convertion

also when your building a car you either set it up for a strait line or to corner. maybe even both like most ppl do. that also depands on ur budget and what suspension and handleing products you put in the car.

hands down in ur book you think only ca18det is the way to go. but there is other ppl out there in the world wanting to do there own things with there own cars. a car is an expression of ur own interests.

im willing to prove the facts when ur ready to race jackass