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Was that a McLaren/Mercedes or a 1200?
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I was leaning on me 1200 last night when a motorcycle came screaming by. I must have been turning 11k because it sounded like a Formula One car. That got me thinking. I now want to put
a bike engine into a 1200. Think about it: 11,000rpm, sequential gearbox, much lighter, as much horsepower and torque as a rotary... My problem is what about reverse gear. Have any of
you had any experience with a bike powered car? I know Quaiffe makes a reverse box for just such a project but I can't seem to find one. I know, get out and push. That might just be
how it works out.

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Re: Was that a McLaren/Mercedes or a 120
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Westfeild and Caterham both offer motorcycle engined cars. There was an article on another reverser for M/C gearboxes in an English Car & Cars Conversions magazine. I will
have it somewhere and I'll dig it up for you.

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Re: Was that a McLaren/Mercedes or a 120
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There are many cars with motorcycle engines under the hood. The problem is that pretty much all of these cars weigh about 200 kilos lighter at least than a 1200. The torque of these
engines is not adequate for cars weighing over 500kg. Just remember that bikes normally weigh between 150-250kg. However I do remember a US road bike that had reverse and 2 forward gears
but it had a 500 cubic inch big block pumping out 500 lazy horsepower. Not bad for $80 000 US.
Just remember though that where there is a will, there is a way.

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Re: Was that a McLaren/Mercedes or a 120
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I've often thought about how a bike engine would go in a coupe, especially a 175hp Suzuki Hayabusa. Awesome close ratio 6-speed to go with it. It would have to make a killer 1300cc class
car. If you look at the figures they're not THAT low on torque but the thing I wonder about is the clutch, I don't know how a tiny clutch designed for a 200kg bike would handle launching
a 700kg car off the line at a zillion rpm...

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Re: Was that a McLaren/Mercedes or a 120
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More food for thought... my old race car the red one in the Kiwi race cars folder weighed 550 kg with fuel. It still had a steel bonnet, doors and bootlid. It had leaf springs and
cast iron calipers front and rear. My new car is space framed, carbon fibre paneled and has alloy everything. For a race dedicated car you could get things really light. In fact I
will have to add ballast to run in my class.

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There is a car called the Megabusa which uses the hayabusa engine in a car like the cateram's or westfield or rover type car. All of these cars are much of a muchness but
you can get sequential gearboxes for them so that would be different on a 1200.
For $12000 you can have a brand new honda s2000 engine optioned on one of these cars so 170 odd kW would be quite handy with the added bonus of the V-tech roar as it reaches
9000rpm.
More food for thought.

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All well and good but I wouldn't call it a datsun in the same way I wouldn't call Victor Bray's car a Chev. And besides these are fully road registered cars that are designed
for the road not modified from a race car.

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Stirlingmac's weight problem.
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OK how did you get it down to 550 kg's with fuel?That's a lot of work with a hole saw! I've done some good stuff on my current race car - haven't run it over a weigh bridge
but reckon it'll still be just over 600 kg.

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Different 1200 Engines
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Hey all, I called Malvern Racing here in the US and ordered some parts from them the other day. He was saying that he's had a lot of people transplanting KA24 engines into 1200's. Does
anybody know anyone that has done this? That's the engine that came in the US version of the 240SX/Silvia. I know in other countries you guys had the CA18DET in those cars and have fit
them into 1200's without too much effort, so I would think the KA24DE would be able to fit too. I don't think these engines put out a great deal of power, but there is an increasing amount
of aftermarket support for them (turbo setups, etc). Just wondering...

-Andy

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1200 Rear Valance
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Peter, I would be interested in A fiberglass rear valance for the 1200 coupe. Almost all of the 1200's I have come across ALWAYS have damage to the front end, or the rear end,
or both. My rear area has been damaged but repaired before I bought it, but they did a crappy job and you can still see where the damage was. $100 sounds ok to me. Keep us
posted.

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