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Datsun 1200s at Bathurst.
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I am sure many of you have seen this but thought I would post it anyway.
From Shannons site:

http://www.shannons.com.au/club/news/ ... the-unsung-bathurst-hero/

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Nice. Levey let me tell you this in the RSA these little cars broke the hearts of many abig name [alfa,bmw,even rotary]and now i'm talking about big races like WYNNS 1000 and castrol 9hr.OK so here we had the 140z ,140y,160z,160y and 1200del and 1200 gx and they were all winners.If you put this on youtube'' kyalami wynns 1000 1978.mpg '' you'll see some of the cars they ran against -- one year they were overaall winners --a lot of the cars broke --cos the race is in jo'burg approx 1000m above sea level and the cars feel it.--you can also google ''George Santana and datsun 1200'' also Brian cook and datsun 1200.If you would like to see some photo's google 'Datsun winners of Wynns 1000' at the bottom of pg2 you can click on those photos.Those years datsuns were like a family member in prison --you know they there but you never talk about them. e/body wanted a flashy car BMW Alfa Fiat mirafiori etc --the datsuns conquered them all.If i remember corrctly '75 76 '78 not all 1st but top 10 pos

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thanks for the link mate.Very interesting read.

Also i found the comments section to the article very interesting. Looks like even today the 56series 1200 5 speed gearboxes aren't known of, even to the the author of the article.

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The mind gets a bit foggy after forty years but it must have been 1973 that I was in and out of the Fiat 128’s pit for most of the day. The Fiat was entered by Tony Brancallion’s Europa Garage, they also ran an Alfetta and a Charger. I think that may have been the year that Tony Allen did the first stint in the Charger and handed over to Phil Brock who quite promptly hit a fence when a wheel bearing seized. A mate of mine from that era was more or less the lead mechanic on the Fiat. Initially there was a Mini involved in the battle (if my memory serves me correctly the driver was John Leighton who suffered a very nasty injury to his lower right leg) that went over the fence after running through some gravel thrown up by the Fiat on the way up the hill, same spot that Bondy went over the year before. Now for the meaty bit, from memory the Fiat backed off towards the end to get to the end. It had been spinning over at around 8,500 RPM to stay with the five speed Datsun all day!! As for the tyres, I don’t remember what brand they were but if they were Goodyears they would have been fitted by a bloke I worked with and probably a fairly standard size. I don’t recall the Fiat running on anything other than the same size wheel all day. I always remember the series of comments attributed to Jim Laing-Peach at the time regarding the five speed. A few other people had considered running the Datsun 1200 at the time but didn’t because of lack of speed on Con-Rod Straight, so after investigating the paperwork they went to JLP and asked him how he got the five speed Homolagated. He replied that it was homolagated in Japan. The other people said that they had checked in Japan and couldn’t find a five speed on the market. JLP replied that it was done by a special workshop. The other people said that they had looked for someone doing five speed Datsun 1200’s in Japan and couldn’t find one. JLP replied that "YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK" All these years later I think it may have been a little bit of "Handicapping" by CAMS. The Fiat was later discovered to by able to rev past 9,000 RPM. When further developed it blew an engine to bits going up the hill at Amaroo when revving past 9,100 RPM! I have since fitted a five speed to a Datsun 1200 ute and found that a bit of massaging is required with a 32 oz. Ball Pein Hammer on the trans tunnel! The five speed came out of another Datsun model and bolted straight up to the 1200 engine but it wouldn’t fit into the trans tunnel without "Modification". So there you have a bit of my memories of events at Bathurst 1973.


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Some great memories of Bathurst ’73 there. I don’t think the controversy surrounding the legality of the five-speed gearbox in that Group C Datsun 1200 will ever die! It caused a huge stink at the time and four decades later it’s still causing a stir.

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I remember listening in a brief conversation by Gordan Dobie and some race guy 30 odd yrs ago , stating it (accepted by CAMS as legitimate modifications) because the car was imported and was factory fitted.

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I think they did the same with 1600's too P510 SSS

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No Cams always used FIA Homologation papers for Imported vehicles to acertain Legality and the FS5C56A was Homologated as standard equipment in the GX Models so it was always Legal as long as the Homologation was for Group One not Group Two which it was.
Group two would have meant running dual sidedraught PHH Solex 40mm's and that would not have been so good for Bathurst what with Fuel consumption also an Important part of the Race.

Do not forget the Racing back then was known as "Improved Production" which meant that a GMH Holdel XU1 which came stock with triple sidedraught Stromberg CD 1.75" Carbs was allowed to run Triple Weber 45 DCOE carburettor's with each carburettor running only one Barell with the Jets Soldered closed on the other Barell hanging out in thin Air.That way they met the rules of the same number of Air Inlets Carburetion wise.

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