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Timing Chain

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= Overview= = Overview=
-* We have seen a couple of single link timing chains on A12, which is probably the original A10 single row chain. Insist on the factory specified double-chain, like Nissan did for later A10s.+We have seen a couple of single link timing chains on A12, which is the original A10 single row chain. Insist on the factory specified double-chain, like Nissan did for later A10s.
 +<br>NOT GOOD
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24938 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24938.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24939 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24939.jpg]
 + 
 + 
* A rattle can be the trait of a stretched timing chain. Pinging/pinking has also often been mistaken for timing chain rattle * A rattle can be the trait of a stretched timing chain. Pinging/pinking has also often been mistaken for timing chain rattle
A-series engine has a short timing chain -- and with an automatic adjuster -- it rarely stretches or goes bad. A-series engine has a short timing chain -- and with an automatic adjuster -- it rarely stretches or goes bad.
-* [http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=BAR&MfrPartNumber=0240226&PartType=163&PTSet=A http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=220&uri=http://www.partsamerica.com/product_images/img/bar/0240226-1.jpg]+<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24803 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/24803.jpg]
Compare to the loooooong chaing used in the Nissan KA24E engine: Compare to the loooooong chaing used in the Nissan KA24E engine:
-* [http://www.clutchkitcenter.com/media/images/TSET/TS10930/TS10930.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=220&uri=http://www.clutchkitcenter.com/media/images/TSET/TS10930/TS10930.jpg]+<br>[http://www.clutchkitcenter.com/media/images/TSET/TS10930/TS10930.jpg click]
 +<br><img size=240>http://www.clutchkitcenter.com/media/images/TSET/TS10930/TS10930.jpg</img>
* KA24 often has timing chain problems * KA24 often has timing chain problems
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== Alignment == == Alignment ==
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5767 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5767.jpg] +Check the cam gear alignment. It should be exactly like this:
 + 
 +[http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/174_4ee9b6405e4fc.jpg http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/174_4ee9b6405e4fc.jpg]
 + 
 +If it is not, see [[Camshaft#Timing]].
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== Chain == == Chain ==
 +Same as SRL311 with U20 engine (for Jackshaft)
 +
* CLOYES Part # S478 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,5724 RockAuto.com $9.40] * CLOYES Part # S478 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,5724 RockAuto.com $9.40]
* BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0240226 * BECK/ARNLEY Part # 0240226
http://info.rockauto.com/Cloyes/94054.jpg http://info.rockauto.com/Cloyes/94054.jpg
-* [http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=BAR&MfrPartNumber=0240226&PartType=163&PTSet=A http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=220&uri=http://www.partsamerica.com/product_images/img/bar/0240226-1.jpg] $17.99, Partsamerica.com 
== Tensioner == == Tensioner ==
* CLOYES Part # 95005 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,5736 RockAuto.com] $3.90 * CLOYES Part # 95005 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,5736 RockAuto.com] $3.90
-http://info.rockauto.com/Cloyes/95005.jpg+<img size=240>http://info.rockauto.com/Cloyes/95005.jpg</img>
== Crank Sprocket == == Crank Sprocket ==
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http://www.cloyes.com/CloyesMDB/Images/Large/S477.jpg http://www.cloyes.com/CloyesMDB/Images/Large/S477.jpg
 +
 +== USA ==
 + B110 RAW LIST
 + 13024-H8500 SPROCKET-CAMSHAFT
 + 13024-18001 SPROCKET-CAMSHAFT
 + 13082-18000 BOLT-CAMSHAFT SPROCKET
 + 13030-18000 WASHER-CAMSHAFT
 + 08915-2401A WASHER-LOCK
 + 08915-14010 WASHER-LOCK
 + 13028-18001 CHAIN-CAMSHAFT
 + 13070-18001 ASSY-TENSIONER CHAIN
 + 08120-63510 BOLT-FIXING CHAIN TENSIONER
 + 08915-13610 WASHER-LOCK FIXING CHAIN TENSIONER
 +
 += Adjustable Cam Gear =
 +Fitting an adjustable Camshaft gear lets you fine tune the timing. The cam vendor's recommendations are usually best, but retarding the cam a degree or two will generall shift the torque curve higher up in the RPM range. Advancing the cam will (usually) lower the power curve a few RPM.
 +
 +[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934sqhy0p82792.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/th_ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934sqhy0p82792.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934g5pec482792.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/th_ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934g5pec482792.jpg]
 +
 +Adjustable gears come in a few basic kinds:
 +* Multi-key. Rollmaster had one with nine adjustible keys in the crank sprocket
 +* Multi-hole. Using different holes
 +* Variable: Slotted holes allow a continuously variable range
 +
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=682 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/682.jpg] Tomei [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3639 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3639.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3640 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3640.jpg]
 +
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7339 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/7339.jpg] Rollermaster
 +
 +
 +[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]
 +[[Category:Valvetrain]]

Revision as of 23:23, 29 December 2012

The Timing Chain drives the Camshaft.

Also see: Timing Cover

Contents

Overview

We have seen a couple of single link timing chains on A12, which is the original A10 single row chain. Insist on the factory specified double-chain, like Nissan did for later A10s.
NOT GOOD
24938.jpg 24939.jpg


  • A rattle can be the trait of a stretched timing chain. Pinging/pinking has also often been mistaken for timing chain rattle


A-series engine has a short timing chain -- and with an automatic adjuster -- it rarely stretches or goes bad.
24803.jpg

Compare to the loooooong chaing used in the Nissan KA24E engine:
click

  • KA24 often has timing chain problems

Replacement

14385.jpg

Alignment

Check the cam gear alignment. It should be exactly like this:

174_4ee9b6405e4fc.jpg

If it is not, see Camshaft#Timing.


697.jpg

3639.jpg http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3640jpg

7339.jpg 7340.jpg


14366.jpg

Part Numbers

The timing chain kit (timing set) includes: Cam, Crank, Chain, Tensioner

94054S.jpg

Cam Sprocket

(38 teeth)

S478.jpg


Chain

Same as SRL311 with U20 engine (for Jackshaft)

94054.jpg

Tensioner

Crank Sprocket

19 teeth

S477.jpg

USA

B110 RAW LIST
13024-H8500 SPROCKET-CAMSHAFT
13024-18001 SPROCKET-CAMSHAFT
13082-18000 BOLT-CAMSHAFT SPROCKET
13030-18000 WASHER-CAMSHAFT
08915-2401A WASHER-LOCK
08915-14010 WASHER-LOCK
13028-18001 CHAIN-CAMSHAFT
13070-18001 ASSY-TENSIONER CHAIN
08120-63510 BOLT-FIXING CHAIN TENSIONER
08915-13610 WASHER-LOCK FIXING CHAIN TENSIONER

Adjustable Cam Gear

Fitting an adjustable Camshaft gear lets you fine tune the timing. The cam vendor's recommendations are usually best, but retarding the cam a degree or two will generall shift the torque curve higher up in the RPM range. Advancing the cam will (usually) lower the power curve a few RPM.

th_ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934sqhy0p82792.jpg th_ps13kai_0399-img600x450-1335611934g5pec482792.jpg

Adjustable gears come in a few basic kinds:

  • Multi-key. Rollmaster had one with nine adjustible keys in the crank sprocket
  • Multi-hole. Using different holes
  • Variable: Slotted holes allow a continuously variable range

682.jpg Tomei 3639.jpg 3640.jpg

7339.jpg Rollermaster