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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Steering Gearbox Swaps

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-Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units.+Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes fit. Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units for B140 which might fit. Datsun [[B310]] uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling -- so the B310 box is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s.
-Datsun [[B310]] uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling. So it is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s.+= Other Datsun Gear =
 +Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes interchange with Datsun 1200s.
 +B110 mounts with one front bolt, two rear bolts. PB110, B210, B310, 510 have the opposite configuration: two front bolts, single rear bolt. That being said, it might be possible to drill new holes and weld in tubes and washers, thus recreating the original holes in a new configuration (the same way the factory did).
-= Rack And Pinion Steering =+Cherry uses Rack & Pinion, so it does not interchange.
-Has anyone ever done it? Aside from race cars with front tube frame, it seems no one has fitted rack and pinion steering to a 1200 with stock 1200 (or other Nissan) suspension.+
-However there are several Datsun 510s with rack and pinion steering swaps. One uses a rack from a Datsun 200SX. Here's what he did: + B310 48010-23100 OR 48010-23130 for A14/A15 (housing 48011-21400)
-* Move the engine crossmember back a couple inches (which necessitates changes to the engine mounts)+ B310 48010-H8800 for A12A (housing 48011-H8800)
-* Weld simple flat brackets to the x-member so the rack can be bolted on+ A10 48010-W5850 OR 48010-W5800 (housing 48011-U5200)
-* Cut the tie-rod ends and weld them back shorter (make sure you have an expert welder do that)+
-* Use a newer steering column that has a flex-joint on the end. He used a 200SX column.+
-The swap had three u-joints and a fairly big angle from the end of the column to the rack, but he said it works great, much better than the stock 510 steering box. No slop!+
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-Would it be better to cut the steering arms shorter and rethread them for the tie-rod ends? +
 += Factory Steering Boost =
 +A page in the Japan-market Sunny Truck parts catalog appears to show a power assist system.
-[[Category:Steering System]]+{{Album|4128}}
 + 
 +The page is titled "Group Index - Chassis". It uses a generic diagram to show which page of the catalog to look at.
 + 
 +It turns out the Sunny Truck did not have a power-assist option - those parts in the diagram don't have a page number but are marked '*' . It's just a generic picture used in all the catalogs. No factory 1200, not even the last 1990s version, used power steering. The diagram appears similar to the Z-car setup with power rack & pinion.
 + 
 += Electric Power Steering =
 +Late model Nissans and Toyodas use electric power steering.
 + 
 +== Japan Kit ==
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=49407&forum=1 Discussion]
 + 
 +{{Album|22714}} {{Album|22715}} {{Album|22800}} {{Album|22801}} {{Album|22802}} {{Photo!|SG.jpg}} {{Photo!|SG-.jpg}}
 + 
 += Flaming River =
 +Long the hotrodder's choice for custom steering systems, [http://www.flamingriver.com Flaming River] sells electric steering gearboxes. This is a column-assist type, and can work with any steering gearbox that accepts a custom column.
 + 
 +[http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=356/category_id=-1/home_id=-1/mode=prod/prd356.htm Flaming River]
 +<br>{{Photo!|prd_lg_356.jpg|forum}}
 + 
 += Rack & Pinion =
 +Rack & Pinion has been adapted to many Datsun 1200s.
 + 
 + See main article: [[Rack and Pinion Steering]]
 + 
 +[[Category:Steering System]]{{End}}

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Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes fit. Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units for B140 which might fit. Datsun B310 uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling -- so the B310 box is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s.

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Other Datsun Gear

Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes interchange with Datsun 1200s.

B110 mounts with one front bolt, two rear bolts. PB110, B210, B310, 510 have the opposite configuration: two front bolts, single rear bolt. That being said, it might be possible to drill new holes and weld in tubes and washers, thus recreating the original holes in a new configuration (the same way the factory did).

Cherry uses Rack & Pinion, so it does not interchange.

B310 48010-23100 OR 48010-23130 for A14/A15 (housing 48011-21400)
B310 48010-H8800 for A12A (housing 48011-H8800)
A10  48010-W5850 OR 48010-W5800 (housing 48011-U5200)

Factory Steering Boost

A page in the Japan-market Sunny Truck parts catalog appears to show a power assist system.

4128.jpgAlbum 4128

The page is titled "Group Index - Chassis". It uses a generic diagram to show which page of the catalog to look at.

It turns out the Sunny Truck did not have a power-assist option - those parts in the diagram don't have a page number but are marked '*' . It's just a generic picture used in all the catalogs. No factory 1200, not even the last 1990s version, used power steering. The diagram appears similar to the Z-car setup with power rack & pinion.

Electric Power Steering

Late model Nissans and Toyodas use electric power steering.

Japan Kit

Discussion

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Flaming River

Long the hotrodder's choice for custom steering systems, Flaming River sells electric steering gearboxes. This is a column-assist type, and can work with any steering gearbox that accepts a custom column.

Flaming River
prd_lg_356.jpg

Rack & Pinion

Rack & Pinion has been adapted to many Datsun 1200s.

See main article: Rack and Pinion Steering 
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