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| - | Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units. | + | Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes fit. Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units for B140 which might fit. Datsun [[B310]] uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling -- so the B310 box is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s. |
| - | Datsun [[B310]] uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling. So it is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s. | + | = Other Datsun Gear = |
| + | Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes interchange with Datsun 1200s. | ||
| + | B110 mounts with one front bolt, two rear bolts. PB110, B210, B310, 510 have the opposite configuration: two front bolts, single rear bolt. That being said, it might be possible to drill new holes and weld in tubes and washers, thus recreating the original holes in a new configuration (the same way the factory did). | ||
| - | = Rack And Pinion Steering = | + | Cherry uses Rack & Pinion, so it does not interchange. |
| - | Consensus: | + | |
| - | * NOT recommended for circuit or road racing | + | |
| - | * Recommended for Drag Racing | + | |
| - | * Jury's out on how well it works for a street car. Those who have done it report good success, those who haven't say the engineering does not add up. | + | |
| - | Discussion: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32356&forum=1 1200 steering box rebuild/replace - what options?] | + | |
| + | B310 48010-23100 OR 48010-23130 for A14/A15 (housing 48011-21400) | ||
| + | B310 48010-H8800 for A12A (housing 48011-H8800) | ||
| + | A10 48010-W5850 OR 48010-W5800 (housing 48011-U5200) | ||
| - | Has anyone ever done it? Yes... | + | = Factory Steering Boost = |
| - | * Race cars with front tube frame (custom suspension and steering geometry) | + | A page in the Japan-market Sunny Truck parts catalog appears to show a power assist system. |
| - | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22446&forum=1 dat383] has fitted rack and pinion steering to a 1200 drag racer | + | |
| - | * 1200 with full Escort front suspension (rack + struts + steering arms matched) | + | |
| - | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32533&forum=1 wards] fitted a Nissan Micra box to his ute | + | |
| - | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32533&forum=1 maddatto] is experimentng on a KB Laser fitment | + | |
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| - | There are several Datsun 510s with rack and pinion steering swaps. One uses a rack from a Datsun 200SX. Here's what he did: | + | |
| - | * Move the engine crossmember back a couple inches (which necessitates changes to the engine mounts) | + | |
| - | * Weld simple flat brackets to the x-member so the rack can be bolted on | + | |
| - | * Cut the tie-rod ends and weld them back shorter (make sure you have an expert welder do that) | + | |
| - | * Use a newer steering column that has a flex-joint on the end. He used a 200SX column. | + | |
| - | The swap had three u-joints and a fairly big angle from the end of the column to the rack, but he said it works great, much better than the stock 510 steering box. No slop! | + | |
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| - | Would it be better to cut the steering arms shorter and rethread them for the tie-rod ends? | + | |
| - | == Swap Information == | + | The page is titled "Group Index - Chassis". It uses a generic diagram to show which page of the catalog to look at. |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22446&forum=1 Dat383 used a Holden Gemini] (Isuzu) steering rack in front of the crossmember. | + | |
| - | * Brackets are fabricated and welded to the crossmember. Because this fits to the front of the crossmember, while the Datsun steering was behing the xmember, swap the complete strut/brake/LCA assemblies from left to right. | + | It turns out the Sunny Truck did not have a power-assist option - those parts in the diagram don't have a page number but are marked '*' . It's just a generic picture used in all the catalogs. No factory 1200, not even the last 1990s version, used power steering. The diagram appears similar to the Z-car setup with power rack & pinion. |
| - | * Shortened the Gemini rack ends and then re-thread them to suit. | + | |
| - | * The front radius arms needed to have a bend pressed into them to clear the tie rod ends when the suspension is on the bump stops. | + | |
| - | * Modify the standard 1200 steering colum to suit: | + | |
| - | ** Cut the outside of the column at the steering box and fabricate a plate out of steel, using the original rubber locator as a guide. | + | |
| - | ** Drill a hole in the plate the same size as the outer diameter of the column | + | |
| - | ** Weld the plate to the column. | + | |
| - | ** With the modified column fitted to the car and the inner steering shaft coming out, make a short steering shaft with two small uni-joints to join the colum and rack together. | + | |
| + | = Electric Power Steering = | ||
| + | Late model Nissans and Toyodas use electric power steering. | ||
| - | [[Category:Steering System]] | + | == Japan Kit == |
| + | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=49407&forum=1 Discussion] | ||
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| + | = Flaming River = | ||
| + | Long the hotrodder's choice for custom steering systems, [http://www.flamingriver.com Flaming River] sells electric steering gearboxes. This is a column-assist type, and can work with any steering gearbox that accepts a custom column. | ||
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| + | [http://www.flamingriver.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=356/category_id=-1/home_id=-1/mode=prod/prd356.htm Flaming River] | ||
| + | <br>{{Photo!|prd_lg_356.jpg|forum}} | ||
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| + | = Rack & Pinion = | ||
| + | Rack & Pinion has been adapted to many Datsun 1200s. | ||
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| + | See main article: [[Rack and Pinion Steering]] | ||
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| + | [[Category:Steering System]]{{End}} | ||
Current revision
Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes fit. Nissan South Africa sells brand-new steering gearbox units for B140 which might fit. Datsun B310 uses a seperate column and gearbox with a flexible coupling -- so the B310 box is not a direct replacement for vintage B110s.
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Other Datsun Gear
Only Datsun 1200 gearboxes interchange with Datsun 1200s.
B110 mounts with one front bolt, two rear bolts. PB110, B210, B310, 510 have the opposite configuration: two front bolts, single rear bolt. That being said, it might be possible to drill new holes and weld in tubes and washers, thus recreating the original holes in a new configuration (the same way the factory did).
Cherry uses Rack & Pinion, so it does not interchange.
B310 48010-23100 OR 48010-23130 for A14/A15 (housing 48011-21400) B310 48010-H8800 for A12A (housing 48011-H8800) A10 48010-W5850 OR 48010-W5800 (housing 48011-U5200)
Factory Steering Boost
A page in the Japan-market Sunny Truck parts catalog appears to show a power assist system.
The page is titled "Group Index - Chassis". It uses a generic diagram to show which page of the catalog to look at.
It turns out the Sunny Truck did not have a power-assist option - those parts in the diagram don't have a page number but are marked '*' . It's just a generic picture used in all the catalogs. No factory 1200, not even the last 1990s version, used power steering. The diagram appears similar to the Z-car setup with power rack & pinion.
Electric Power Steering
Late model Nissans and Toyodas use electric power steering.
Japan Kit
Flaming River
Long the hotrodder's choice for custom steering systems, Flaming River sells electric steering gearboxes. This is a column-assist type, and can work with any steering gearbox that accepts a custom column.
Rack & Pinion
Rack & Pinion has been adapted to many Datsun 1200s.
See main article: Rack and Pinion Steering