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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Propeller Shaft Swaps

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This article primarly compares B110, B210 and B310 propeller shafts. When swapping rear axle assemblies, the rule of thumb is: 

get the matching shaft with the diff

In general, all B110, B210 and B310 driveshafts are the same (or close to same) overall length, but the ends differ:

  • Auto vs. Manual
  • Japan diff vs Borg Warner diff
  • H145 vs H150 vs H165 diff
  • Late ute vs Early ute

1200 Coupe, Wagon and Sedan and early B120 Truck shafts are the same. Shafts for all 3-, 4- and 5-speed 56-series and 60-series boxes are the same. Among


Contents

Overview

Automatic and manual cars use different propeller shafts (aka driveshaft or tailshaft). Automatic transmissions are 15mm shorter than a standard transmission, so the auto propeller shaft assembly is 15mm longer. The shaft itself may be the same, but the yoke is longer.

56-series transmissions and 60-series transmissions are the same length, and use the same shaft. It doesn't matter if you get the transmission from a B110, B210 or B310. What matters is which differential you have.

63A 5-speed transmissions use the same input yoke as the Automatics. All you need to support the 63A transmission is the AT prop shaft.


You may need to remove the dust cover (cup on front yoke that fits over end of gearbox) for some swaps. The cup sometimes looks like its purpose is a stopper, to stop the yoke from sliding in too far (see B310 Manual Conversion, tailshaft doesn't match?).


Can you use a B210 driveshaft in a B110? Yes, IF you get the B210 driveshaft for H145 differential (A12, A13 powered B210s). Here are some driveshaft (tailshaft) considerations

  • The 56 and 60 transmissions are the same length
  • The automatic and standard cars use the same differential, so the back flange is the same
  • Automatic and Manual Transmission cars use different shaft assemblies, apparently the shaft's slip yoke is different
  • 1974 B210s (and any 12" wheeled A12-powered B210) uses the H145 diff. Other B210 models used the H150 diff which has a larger flange
  • Aussie-assembled B210s used a Borg-Warner diff, so that shaft is totally different from any other


Note that all models in a generation use the same shafts -- there is no difference between coupe, sedans or wagons.

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The 1971-1973 Datsun 1200 manual tailshaft is the same overall length as the B310 manual but with different flange bolt pattern at rear.

Left: B310 fits to H150 differential. Right: B110 fits to H145 7474.jpg
B110 and B310 both use the "Japanese" differential (H145 or H150). So do most B210s, except Aussie-built B210 sedans which use a Borg-Warner differential.


Identification

Round or rectangular flange?

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Specifications

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Length (mm) B A C Overall Diff
B10 1967-1970  ? 1178  ?  ? H145
1971-1974 m/t 115 1189 30 1334 H145
1971-1974 auto 130 1189 30 1349 H150
B110 Aussie  ?  ?  ?  ? BW60
B210 A14 m/t 115 1182 33 1330 H150
B210 A14 auto 130 1182 33 1345 H150
B210 Aussie  ?  ?  ?  ? BW68
1976-1978 FSW5A 130 1189 30 1349 H150
B310 m/t 120 1177 33 1330 H150
B310 auto  ? 1045 33  ? H150

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left to right: 1200 ute, 120Y with BW, Sunny B310, 1200 Auto


B10 Propeller Shaft Specs

  • 1178 mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 63.5 mm Tube diameter. 1.6 mm thick

Flange

  • B110: 35 x 50 mm bolt holes. 38mm inner circle
    19859.jpg
  • H150: aproximately 50 x 60 mm. Inner circle about 57 mm
    th_P1010126.jpg
  • H165 guess: Same as H150 ???

B110 Propeller Shaft Specs

  • Same for all 1971-1973 models (including B120 ute)
  • End-to-end length nearly same as B310 (though diff flange differs)
  • 1189 mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 68.9 mm Tube diameter. 1.6 mm thick
  • 20 mm Sleeve yoke (slip yoke) diameter. 1.6 mm thick. 3.150 mm pitch splines

B110 Propeller Shaft - Nissan Part Numbers


1974-up B120 Pickup

The H165 differential ute:

  • Type: 2S65A 2-joint
  • 1138 mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • Tube diameter: 63.5 mm (2.5 in)
  • Sleeve yoke: 148.5mm (5.85 in)

B210 Propeller Shaft Specs

one-piece shaft Length measurements

  • 1182 mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 1330 mm manual (end-to-end)
  • 1345 mm auto (end-to-end)
  • 33 mm (rear u-joint to flange face)
  • 115 mm manual (front u-joint to tip of slip yoke)
  • 130 mm auto (front u-joint to tip of slip yoke)

NOTE: Overall length is 4 mm shorter than B110 shaft assemblies.


Nissan Part Numbers - Manual

  • 37000-H3100 manual, for H145 diff
  • 37000-H7200 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER manual 4-speed, for H150 diff
    • AMPCO 2 JOINT 1182X68.9X1.6
  • 37000-H7300 manual, 5-speed 63 (NOTE: same as auto)
    • AMPCO 2 JOINT 1182X68.9X1.6

Automatic Transmission

  • 37000-H5100 Automatic, for H145 diff
  • 37000-H7300 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER automatic, for H150 diff

2-piece Shafts (3 joints)

  • 37000-H7500 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER (3-joint) A14 F5W63
    • AMPCO 3 JOINT (440+742)X63.5X1.6
  • 37000-H7510 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER (3-joint) A14T F4W60
    • AMPCO 3 JOINT (440+742)X63.5X1.6
  • 37000-H7900 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER (3-joint) L16 engine

These last two (2-piece shaft, 3-joints) are JDM models with a small 63.5mm diameter shaft. These were used in the L-engine powered cars.

B310 Propeller Shaft Specs

Length

  • End-to-end length nearly same as B110 (though diff flange differs)
  • ~1245 mm overall from rear flange face to beginning of yoke slip surface
  • 1045 mm auto (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 1177 mm m/t (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 68.9 mm Tube diameter
  • flange: 35mm (from centre u-joint to mating face)
  • Type 2S56A

Nissan Part Numbers

  • 37000-H8500 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER manual (56 or 60 trans)
  • 37000-H8900 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER automatic

Two-piece shafts

  • 37000-H9200 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER A14E up to 7909
  • 37000-H9201 SHAFT ASSY-PROPELLER A14E from 7910-8010 A15E from 8011

These last two "E" models (EGI aka EFI) used a two-piece shaft with center bearing, similar to the longbed GB122 truck.

P510 (1600) Propeller Shaft Specs

Length

  • 1082mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 63.5 mm Tube OD, 60.3 ID
  • This is just for a sedan

P610 (180b) Propeller Shaft Specs

Length

  • End-to-end length 1183.5
  • 1000 mm (u-joint to u-joint)
  • 148.5 (end of yoke to centre of u-joint)
  • 63.5 mm Tube diameter
  • flange: 35mm (from centre u-joint to mating face)
  • Tailshaft for Hardtop and Wagon are 2peice and I havent bothered entering this information.

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