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steveo
Re: A14 bored out to a 2Lt?
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i thought he was big noteing himself! the biggest pistons i've heard of is 80mm but it can be trouble because there isn't much steel left between the bores.

1.9????????? i would like to see that! custom crank and rods and pistons? sounds pricey!!! much better of putting an L20 in it!

Posted on: 2008/6/18 12:11
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I know for sure you can bore out a L14 to 1975cc ..... just never seen a a14 out more than 1600ish

the car is advertised as a A14 , but claimed to be 2litre yet it has a A12 engine number

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can't believe this is being contemplated...

clearly a load of crap...

even if you could why would you bother for a street ute with airbrushing......

nuff said

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Re: A14 bored out to a 2Lt?
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wrxsuk wrote:
I know for sure you can bore out a L14 to 1975cc ..... just never seen a a14 out more than 1600ish



surely an L14 would be bored and stroked to get it to 2L

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to get 2 ltrs from A-series engine you are talking 91mm bore [for A14 crank] and 88mm bore [for A15 crank] This guy has made no mention of stroke what so ever. With those huge bores I would think that the steel between the cylinders would be paper thin.

I find it very hard to believe. 1608cc is about the limit.even then I would use it on the track only. I guess it is possible to squeeze in an E16 crank, but you would have pretty serious angles going on with con rods.

Benny's right on the money.
A 90mm bore in the 77mm stroke A14 block will yeild just over 1959cc. There is no mention of a stroke job, nor is it an A15, but it sure looks like an A series to me.

The center to center bore spacing is a lot less than 90mm, it's much closer to 81 or 82mm, so it's a physical imposibility for an A14 to be "board'[Sic] out to anywhere near 90 or 91mm. The entire cylinder would be removed & the pistons would overlap.

Nobody seems to have successfully & reliably pushed an A15 past about 1608cc & that's with the 5mm longer stroke of 82mm.

It all sounds a bit sus to me.

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This engine of John Taylors was 1700cc (approx) and I vaguely remember Jeff talking about the possibility of going to 1900cc with a mazda crank.

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Ah yes. The old possibility trick eh'.

So if thats the case there's a possibility that Angelina Jolie will shag me in a threesome with Toni Pearin...

I don't think so. Not in a ute for $4500...

Maths should sum this up.

Man + A14 + telling everyone that it is bored out to a 2 litre = total wanker with no clue.

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sidedraught wrote:
This engine of John Taylors was 1700cc (approx) and I vaguely remember Jeff talking about the possibility of going to 1900cc with a mazda crank.


are you sure about that? doesn't make much sense to me. Its a IPRA race car and the capacity classes are 0-1600cc, 1601-2000cc... you are allowed 2% tolerance on the max capacity, so you can run in 0-1600cc with a 1632cc engine.

It makes absolutely no sense as a racer to exceed that by 60cc and then have to compete against much larger displacement cars with capacities up to 2040cc.

it would be two thirds of stuff all different in output to the a slightly smaller engine which would then be at the upper limits of the 0-1600cc capacity limits and be much more competitive.

I think the old chinese whispers are coming into play.

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Now Now Revhead Keep an open mind it helps deal with the D#@*Heads And Wanna Be's out there. Why dont we all just agree that its a pile of crap and leave it at That. Now Lets start a new topic that we can say something constructive about. Like when are some of us Northern NSW guys going to get together and have a counter lunch and do a bit of a cruise. I'm lookin at about 3 months to have my Dat ready for that type of thing. Anyone else from Newcastle and Northern regions e.g Coffs. Armidale, Tamworth, Wanna get together ?

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You mite be able to get a larger than the excepted max bore, if you offset bored the block, and sleeved the block. But I doubt that you'd get 2000cc. Why would you bother though? I've heard young dickheads at work talk about their mates who have XXX motor bored out to XXXcc's, when I know full well that they are talking out their backside.

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