hey every one i was just wondering if any one had info regarding the 1200s at bathurst as i recently heard there was a factory wide body 1200 raced at bathurst and only 100 were made what made it different was that the chassis rails where moved inwards from factory allowing wider rims to be fitted and was just wondering if any one else knows about this or has heard about it

I've gathered results information here....have not heard of a wide body 1200 though.
http://wiki.datsun1200.com/index.php/Datsuns_at_Bathurst

There 100% is a "widebody" version of the coupe. Boz has had one sitting in his Dad's shed for the last 10 years sitting there gathering dust hehe.

Quote: How does the moving of the chassis rails inward & the fitting of wider rims make these cars 'wide bodied'? I would have thought that 'narrow chassied' would have been more appropriate.

Keeping in mind that to narrow the chassis involves a major structural rebuild including moving the spring seats on the rear axle inwards since the springs are anchored to the chassis rails.
The new & narrower distance between the springs would then adversely affect the body roll dynamics as well so this would need to be addresses along with all the other suspension mods.

Keeping in mind that we have forum members that have successfully fitted 7" wide rims under their 1200's without moving chassis rails, & remembering also that the Bathurst Valiant Chargers, which must weigh twice what a 1200 weighs, & were circulating at speeds much higher than a 1200 could ever achieve, .... all on 7" rims, who on earth would spend the squilions of dollars needed to modify 100 [new] cars for a nil result. I mean, just how wide a rim would they be fitting?

This is a solution in desperate need of a problem.

It's possible that somebody somewhere has built a 1200 coupe with narrowed chassis rails for his own purposes but 100 cars to allow racing at Bathurst.
Yeah, right.

I 'heard' somebody say that Arnie Shwartzenegger was gay, but just because I heard it doesn't make it true.

When we see pictures of more than one of these cars, & we can see that all of them have identical structural mods, then I will place some credence in it, but untill then, based on the available hard evidence, .... it's ALL bulsh1t.
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Pictures??? Pictures???? It doesn't exist unless we see pictures, it's just just words on a page.
Good shots of the rear underfloor area showing the structural changes to the chassis will be really good.

Yeah,we know them as 120Y's.....

Too many wet dreams me thinks

Years ago I visited the owner of the wide body and was told that the difference was easily evidenced by trying to fit an original coupe back seat - it was not wide enough.

If this was the truth (and I had no reason to doubt him) then the difference was not because of moving the rails in.

Such a mod (if it is legit) means it was a true extra width body that allowed a wider rear track under 'stock' sheetmetal.

This would not be repeated for 100 different vehicles in order to gain a Bathurst entry - just possibly a factory 'cheat' that might help the 1200 punch even further above it's weight. And we all know there were a few of those tricks done back in the day...

I dont know about this, why not just use wheelarch flares for a wider track,
if the stock back seat doesnt fit, it suggests more like wheel tubs were used.

Not sure why i'me bothering with this,but Greg and myself and his brother used to borrow the race 1200 wheels and Dunlop race rubber for our 1000's and 1200 on a regular basis for our early forays into the sport...then return them all on Monday morning for no charge if un damaged.....they where garden variety 1200 steel wheels,with 12"Dunlop race rubber fitted.

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Sorry - I have edited my post to say that an original seat was not wide enough (allegedly).

Flares were not allowed back in the day because sheetmetal had to remain stock.

hey thanks for info every one its just that i was told that there is one for sale and just wondered if any one had heard any rumours about the cars also i was told i fits 9 inch wheels at the back and the souce who im getting this of is very reliable