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not for drifting or legendary modern racing cars the minimum sweet spot these days is over 2510mm A popular budget drift pig atm in japan is the chaser its not the fastest/lightest yet easy to control coming in at over 2700mm 107 inches.
for witches hat racing a morris mini with swb is hard to beat as are any 90s kei cars here.
Posted on: 2019/7/27 1:39
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This is the second PB210 GX sedan I've seen that has a single carb engine. I've seen one in the same shade which also has a 85ps L14S. All others I've seen have 95ps L14T twin carb engines. Is it an option or something?
Posted on: 2019/7/27 7:31
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In the Japan market: * PB210 GX (1971-1975) came with L14T (Twin carb) * B211 GX (1976-1977) came with L16S * B211 GX-T (1977) came with L16T
[edit: about the GB211 info (Sunny Excellent 1600), not sure]
Posted on: 2019/7/27 7:56
Edited by ddgonzal on 2019/7/27 9:06:07
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I'm checking the PB210 brochures ... we only have two brochures :-{ also two 1200/1400 brochures. They show GX as having twin carbs or don't mention otherwise
PB210 parts Catalog also shows GX with only twin carb
hmm ...
Posted on: 2019/7/27 8:50
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Quote: This is the second PB210 GX sedan I've seen that has a single carb engine ... Is it an option or something? It could be a market thing. For example in North America, every B210 GX came with a single-carburetor engine
Posted on: 2019/7/27 19:56
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Quote: D wrote:
I have a question Harry since youve made more race like datsuns that anybody I recall on here. What would it take to get a Stanza to beat or match a Race spec Ae86? Balance seems to be the main strength but the L series is the same weight as the 4age and can make the same power and even more with a ka24de head. Wheelbases are the same and is most of their other dimensions.
AE86 full race specs here halve way down the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiichi_Tsuchiya Wheelbase 2,400 mm (94.5 in) Length 4,204 mm (165.5 in) Width 1,626 mm (64 in) Height 1,336 mm (52.6 in) Curb weight 998–1,089 kg (2,200–2,400 lb)
Stanza Wheelbase 2,400 mm (94.5 in) Length 4,080–4,310 mm (160.6–169.7 in) Width 1,605–1,620 mm (63.2–63.8 in) Height 1,320–1,410 mm (52.0–55.5 in) Curb weight 870–1,367 kg (1,918–3,014 lb)
Stanza is a fair bit heavier I think, and the L series simply has to be heavier than the little 4AGE. Massive block on the L bangers. But there's no reason a Stanza couldn't be competitive with an AE86 when they're both done up to race specs. They certainly went alright in rallying back in their day. Factory rally cars got the LZ motor and George Fury campaigned one successfully. They look good with the rally flares too
Attach file: Fury Stanza tarmac setup Oran Park.jpg (100.75 KB)
Posted on: 2019/7/29 1:05
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Harry I was shocked to find the L series although looks like a massive cast block compared to the CA18de and the 4age, its actually lighter than we think.
Total car weight wikipedia shows 870kg (wrong maybe?) as the base model (L14 4sp) Yet the L16 block is only 37kg when I weighed it, the l18 siamese was 48kg whilst a fully dressed l18b sss engine were quoted somewhere round 128kg which is the same weight as the 4age. The L16 bored out and with an L18 crank would be quite light considering the removal of 4 x 3mm x 138mm pipes and using lighter shorter compression height pistons should be equal to any 4age in weight.
The ca18de block was 37kg also bare so its quite deceptive. I always thought the L series was an antiquated boat anchor until I started to learn and be taught how awesome they can be with the right amount of work albeit not cheap but specially like the grunter tunes and still dream of owning one again.
The starting weight for the ae85 is about 980 from factory whilst the 86 990kg so its seems heavier than the Stanza unless its a definite error? The lightest ae86 Ive read about was a jap racer covered in carbon guards, hatch, doors and bonnet with speed holes and cromo roll cage 780kg was the number. I recall the doors are 34kg each for the ae86 whilst carbon was 8kg.
Posted on: 2019/7/29 16:06
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Quote: ddgonzal wrote: It could be a market thing. For example in North America, every B210 GX came with a single-carburetor engine
I can understand if it is in a different market. We too have a B210 GX model with normal A12 engine. But to have both single carb and twin carb GX in one market when the brochures only show twin carb GX is a bit confusing
Posted on: 2019/8/9 11:44
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The B210/PB210 engine bay is deceptively big the only things stopping them from being more crazy swap friendly is the steering box and possibly the brake booster pushing the master cylinder forward, I boosted brakes or a vh44 under a guard might help, along with a rack and pinion swap... That being said I like my Datsuns NOT V8 powered, I think I'd go VG30ET at most... There is a pic of a 120Y with a 308 cube Holden V8 on the forums...
Posted on: 2019/8/12 18:34
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