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I have an 1500 datsun motor and it is going into a 1200 coupe and I would love to turbo it. How do I go about this?? Any info would be great. email: Velta1@one.net.au
Posted on: 2000/5/23 7:29
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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I'm not quite there yet. I will be picking up my A15 block tomorrow from the machine shop. 30 thou over with a step cam. If you are looking for a turbo, I chose a Dodge Colt 1.6L turbo. It's small and you won't get the feeling that you are going to blow your engine. I will be mounting it to the bolt holes on the drivers side of the engine (these are the holes for the A/C pump). I fabbed a aluminum box for my Weber 32/36 carb. You will have to "T" off the Oil pressure switch to get oil to the turbo and also come off the intake manifold for the coolant. Alot of brackets and so forth to fab. I wish I could tell you the performance, but I won't have it running until mid to late summer. That's about all I have. Hope this helps. Ernie
Posted on: 2000/5/23 8:12
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Thanks alot for that. Im in australia, and you? What motor work do I have to do to get it to accept a turbo (compression etc) I don't know much about motors, just learning... :) thanks once again
Posted on: 2000/5/23 8:46
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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Nothing much on the lower end for the A15. I will have to drill a hole in the oil pan for the return oil from the turbo though. The head does not need to be ported because the air is forced in. I do have stronger value springs and will probably be getting some stronger head bolts so I don't blow a head gasket. Total Seal racing piston rings. These rings really add more power to your engine. I have a set on my A14 right now. Practically no blow-by. I guess we'll just see how it goes. I'll try to keep the boost down to about 4 or 5. As soon as the engine is back together on the stand, I'll try to get a picture on the site. That's all for now. Ernie.
Posted on: 2000/5/25 8:26
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I think the A series engine is perfect for Turbocharging. It naturally has pretty high revving tendencies with just a cam and a balance job. I think for a good setup, first it needs forged pistons to hold up to a good amount of boost. It would be nice to get some strong forged rods too, but those are way too expensive. The stock A-12, 13, 14 in the US has 8.5:1 compression, and the A-15 has 8.9:1, so detonation probably wouldn't be too much of an issue. I would be sure to O-ring the block, and get a NISMO head gasket. I would also try to get ARP studs/bolts or similar...just something better than stock rod and head bolts. It would be best to port out the head as much as possible, and beef up the valve train. The other thing that's hard to deal with is carburetion...it'd be really easy to turbocharge with Fuel Injection since it automatically adjusts the richness of the fuel with the amount of boost used. It would be sweet to get ahold of an imported fuel injection setup for an A-series engine, but I have ony seen pictures, and you'd need to get the computer/wiring for it to be relatively cheap and easy. I think though that if you did it right, you could really get some amazing power out of a Turbo A-15. The only thing is that once you get done spending all that time and money, you could've just bought a different kind of engine that has a lot more potential....such as a VG30ET???? hee hee hee I can't wait to try that one! -Andy
Posted on: 2000/5/25 7:55
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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I have seen a A15 with turbo charger and injection in a 1200 ute at eastern creek the V&E Rigoli crew built it it run 13.1 at quarter miles was neat and sounded very strong. Andrew
Posted on: 2000/5/26 6:13
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Hello, I just found your club and I had to join. I had a 1200 sedan for over 300K and it never failed me. I failed it quite often but it always came through. After owning it for eight years, I built the motor and turbocharged it. Paeco in Birmingham, AL has valve trains, pistons, rods and cranks that are unsurpassed but a but costly. I put 90K miles on that motor without a mishap and it was at 8.5 - 9000 rpms all the time. This was a 1972 A12 motor. After that motor I installed a normally aspirated 8000 rpm A14 that was hard to beat. That car lasted until 1989. As for the A15 motor, is cannot get the rpm of the A14 or the A12 motors. I now have a 1200 coupe and I installed a 65 HP A14 with the 1977 heavy duty Tranny. The first gear is to you and back like on the old three speeds. It is an excellent tranny but it does use a bit more horsepower from the enging than the standard tranny. The drive shaft end is the same as larger Datsuns and the 1200 automatic is the same also. I can cruise at 70 and still get over 40 MPG with it. There and cars that get better gas milage, there are cars that handle better, and there are cars that out perform the 1200 but there are NO CARS that can do all three better than the little B110. LATER
Posted on: 2000/5/26 7:46
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1200 w/A15 running 12.8 ET |
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Hey I got a few email from a guy that used to race 1200's. He said that they had a 1200 coupe with a naturally aspirated modified A15, webers, and slicks, he said it ran 12.8 in the quarter! I wonder what kind of mods he did to it?! Just thought I would share. I never thought an A15 could get a 1200 to go that fast. I wish mine was that fast! -Andy
Posted on: 2000/5/26 9:49
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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I find it hard to believe that a normally aspirated A15 could run 12.8 down quarter the most powerfull A15 I know of has 180hp running quad 50mm throtle bodies bored to 1608cc motech compter and electric dizzy ect with this power to weight even striping all the gear and slick's would be capable of mid 13's My Ca18 turbo started of running them times with 250hp on slicks!!! The A15 that run 13.1 at eastern creek in a 1200 ute was running 25psi I was told on a strict avgas diet and highly modified around 220hp . there are some short drag strips around the world too maybe it wasnt a full 400 meters. cheers Andrew
Posted on: 2000/5/27 5:54
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Here's an excerpt from an email he sent me. "Hey! your site looks good....brings back some of the good ole days. Your body style with the a-15 modified will run 12.8sec et's on webers with slicks; an old 62yrs young friend and customer runs one and has since found the lighter and stiffer pick-up version. He does quarter mile runs and the car leaves everyone's jaw on the floorGreat job .......... I'm sorry you did not email sooner, but I still have (I think) one of the last in the fastest cams ever run in those engines....add the roller rocker and its great. To get those things to put out 180+hp you need to O'ring the blocks with the 79mm bore Nismo head gasket. The roller rockers are great we found the 1.6 works best. you can use chevy valve springs, because the comp springs tire out to quickly. Our spring assembly was bought years ago from Don Preston Racing. I'll try and find a picture of the champion motor that was run 10years+ ago and send it to you. The engine cost ....if I remember right..............$13,000.00usd to build .........remember that's a long time ago. The only increase in capacity is up to 1666cc, the largest we built for a customer overseas.......206HP max rpm 8600........ The a-14 were run to 9800rpm to shift." So, I don't know from personal experience if it's possible to run a 12.8 with an A15, but this guy says they have. It's at least something to dream about. See ya -Andy
Posted on: 2000/5/28 3:23
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