roblaw that was me and yer scott sent the new part straight away but still leaves me with the problem that the full ajustable front end kit wasnt tested. and will happen again unless i modify the lowercontrol arm

The first mod I did on my Ute project was to purchase the original strut setups from MADDAT (which since have changed), I knew I was going to make my Ute go, so firstly I wanted to make it stop. I paid something like $14oo to $17oo around about (can't really remember now might have included the booster as well) - but it was the simple bolt in pleasure and assurance of safety that made it all worth while. I since have gone 3 ways in purchasing a sick gas welder which we can now do body work and fab up some cross members etc.
There are many backyard mechanics out there - me and my mates included, but Scott and the crew at MADDAT know their #OOPS# and know what they are on about. Ofcourse branching out and making a company out of something you love and wanting it to do well is everyone's dream and it's hard work. I say good luck to them, I still purchase items off them and will continue to for convienence.
If you have the skills, talent and time to source & fab up ALL your necessary parts to build a race car - I am seriously jealous, but for the rest of us and the noobs to building cars....... MADDAT can help. Realistically there is no 'bolt in' parts out there, you need to get your hands dirty and often modify to make fit 'most' of the time. This should be brought to peoples attention when forum subject states "What is needed to fit a SR into a 1200 Ute?"
Getting on forums and slagging off the prices is fair game, MADDAT knows that.

Just as a comparison I'll offer this up: circa 1992 I purchased a complete 280ZX front brake & suspension set up, it came with crossmember, radius rods, coil over struts, two sets of springs , Tokico dampers and tie rod ends etc. 280ZX calipers and discs. The total set up was $1100 USD. Keep in mind while the Tokico's were new everything was used, lightly used but still used and I had to mix and match rod ends to get the sway bar hooked up.
So 17 years ago a used set up cost me $1100..............so while I can't speak for MADDAT $3000 is not out of line, grab some old Nissan Motorsports price list or look up prices on from Japan. This stuff is not cheap I would suggest you look up prices for DMS struts for a Subaru WRX or vintage Escort parts.

No I wouldn't pay that much but I have a fabricator and am willing to sort things on my own.

Tom

Lizard,i guess the bottom line here is;
If you have the fabrication skills,and equipment and knowledge you can do all this stuff yourself just as i do,but if you don't and you want all this stuff anyway then you must go looking for after market parts suppliers and pay the prices they are wanting on the day...because you don't have the resources,are a bit under done,a Tasmanian(just joking guys)or what ever.
Personally,i don't think Maddat prices are all that bad when i consider the time it takes me to build parts compared to a hypothetical hourly rate to fabricate said parts.
I'm currently paying a solicitor what i believe to be a rip off to secure a property for my daughter...but hey,horses for courses.
Keep Smiling

Some people just don't understand what goes into a job, and factoring in warranty's, materials and peoples time in constructing it. Then justifying spending the money on their $2000 car. When you can buy a set of 4 Tein coilovers for a skyline for half the price.

There is not that big a market for it so it is more expensive. Low turnover = higher premiums.

Isn't it $3K for the strut and brake package together?

Front Brake Conversion Kit Ultimate
Includes 296mm slotted and dimpled disc rotors, RX7 S6 Calipers (new seal kits fitted), adaptor brackets, bolts, washers. wheel bearing kits, s/s braided lines and light-weight aluminium anodised hubs. Kit is designed to fit 200B or late Stanza struts with minimum 16" wheels. Option of red or black calipers. 4 or 5 stud 114.3 PCD
$2,395

thats the most $$$ one i can find

having built all the stuff on my car myself i think the same thing when i look at the maddat sight, thinking how much it cost me to do it compared to what they charge

but as others have said, think of how long it would take to sort out the original design, then they offer a warrantee, and all the customer usually has to do is bolt stuff straight in

but then for the price of say there strut and brake package or an R31 diff ive got both of those things and a whole CA conversion for the same price

it all comes down to what you know you can do, what you have time to learn how to do, and whether you can be bothered

Having done the conversion on Mr Hanky (before he was killed)it takes time to make things fit and work. Even though they would have a lot of jigs for stuff they still have to put man hours and materials into making the gear. If you do something from scratch (make it all yourself) you learn to appreciate these guys a bit more in my experience. Your also paying for convenience.

They are (as far as Im aware) the only place were you can get off the shelf (to some degree) Mod's for 1200's.

If you were to go to an engineer and hav them make a 'one off' custom front end $2,395.00 would be a bargen.

Yes its cheepest to DIY but if you dont hav the skills and or tool's, they are doing you a favor.

yea isnt some of maddats stuff engineerd? ive heard the cost of engineering parts is rediculous