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okay how do i not understand that the idea is outside the square? that's the whole reason i'm interested in it! citroen body, 454 chev and a hilux chassis - seems pretty bloody original to me.

and like i said, i don't care what kind of whoopass suspension it has - if it was that great there'd still be more on the roads, wouldn't there? it sounds overly complicated for something that really "only" needed good geometry to solve it's exceptionally long wheelbase.

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Ha Ha, now that is really funny. Cheers.
You say I should grow up. What for? Maybe you should. You did bring yourself into this now. Thats kinda childish to me. What do you think? Oh sorry, Firstly I should ask, Do you think?

1000Coupe my wagon is just modded, nothing special. I can say that if you are a diehard 1000 lover, chances are when mine is finished you wont like it.
Cheers for the datto inspiration. It is partly what I was asking for, even if others took your words as being on the negative side.
Cheers Steve

well its a bit like this pro240C,
when someone sticks a 454 on a hilux chassis witha 9" diff under a HZ panelvan, u have replaced pushrod V8 and ladder chassis and solid diff with exactly the same technology. the same technology that was already out of date for european and jap cars by the 1960's but for holden/chev went on and on...so with that buildup you arnt rewriting history just changing font.

if u do that to a car that was futuristic, u are basically tearing out a page of motor histor to wipe your ass.
about the suspension being over complicated, yes for ppl who like a harsh low ride for handling sure its over complex. if u like superb comfort good enough for the presidfent to ride in back and at the same time stability at 2oo and versatility of crossing rough ground without breaking eggs if your a french egg farmer then it takes more than a set of Kings and Konis. just like a stage 3 cam is no real replacement for Varaible valve trains ifu want smoothness and low end as well as top end grunt.
but of course i would rather see it butchered than scrapped and rusting in a paddock somewhere.

hey i understand where you're coming from and i agree - to a point.

but if someone wants to stuff a GM V6 into a 1200 that's a step in which direction...? it all depends how you go about it. if someone just loves 1200 sedans for example and wants to completely fabricate a full tube chassis with dinner plate brakes and wants to put an old flathead fourpot in it from the original model T and just drape the body over it for the look then they shouldn't? that by your definition is wiping their arse with motoring history. to me, i'll look at the engineering in the chassis, the trick bits needed to hold it all together and how they shaped the chassis to suit the 1200 body.

being different is what it's all about. yeah you'll piss off the purists, but if you're gonna walk around worrying about treading on eggshells all the time then buy a commodore and save yourself the hassle.

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me too. which is why i don't oppose crazy views with obscure cars. you can stil maintain the flavour of the original vehicle and change everything else. chances are when it's done you won't even know what's done until you're told!

Has anyone put a dish washer in their datto? Maybe I'll do that.... And a fridge and a telescope and a couch and shower and a toilet out the back. And a swing set for the kids.. What do ya reckon?

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LMAO!!!! Your sure think highly of yourself. That would be a first for you to ask someone something, as you usually just open your mouth before you even think about what you have just said.

I got into this because you are a easy target and its so much fun stirring you up, as you react every time!!!! Cheers mate

here you all are, granny has made you all A NICE BIG CUP OF SHUT THE #### UP!
think before u say sumthing stupid.

I see we are AGAIN of the subject.
Can we please get back on the subject.

I started my project only with a respray and nice new mags.
Well, where has it ended?
Spray job, Nice mags, Front suspention rubbers being replaced, new clutch kit, ignitor system, new frontload cd player, gearlever leather boot. I only have still the radiator to do to drive her without overheating on the free way then I am finished. NOT........
I have been caught in the Datsun spending frenzy!!!!!!!

What I can say is that I drink occasionally and don't smoke.
After I have seen some people here spend on booze for every weekend and a packet of smokes for every day, I am glad to say my datsun can get all the money.
At least I can show where my money has gone.
Every time I walk to my Datsun to go for a drive I get a smile as I know how much money and work has gone into my Datsun.
I have gotten many prazes by people saying my car looks beautiful and some that wanted to buy it on the spot for more that I have spend on it.
I will do it all over again.
With a smile.

Guys,

This has been an intersesting thread to read and one of the best for a while. Getting away from all of this other sh*t and back to the original topic I would agree that modifying datos is an expensive hobby but well worth it in the end. I took a piece of $2000 rusted out 1971 dato ute crap and have turned in into something that I am proud to drive.

I have spent over $10,000 in the last 7 years on the following in no particular order:

1) Front strut swap with disk brakes and King Springs. 180B dual master brake cylinder. New front brake lines.

2) Rustoration and respray. Can you believe that I didn't get it all and I will need to have another go at it?

3) A15 upgrade with 25/65 cam, extractors with 2 inch exhaust system, Twin Su's. Engine bay resprayed. Sunny radiator.

4) Steering componenets from Sunnys, 120y's, Stanzas. 13 inch rims and lower profile tyres. Change over steering box.

5) New front guards, back tailgate panel, front bumper. Rhinotough ute lining. New custom made tarp. New windshield and rubber. New door seals & rubbers, window seals. Hood lining, carpets kits, Ford Laser seats. Sports steering wheel. Door trims. Pioneer Stero.

6) New Rear tail light assemblies, Halagen front headlight conversion. Driving lights.

That is most of it and I still have the 5 speed to put in (I finally got one), upgrade the diff to a H165. Install a larger fuel tank, modify handbrake cable as a result. Rust treat underside of tray. Fix the bloody fuel gauge, install a taco and various other meaningless gauges, another rust attempt and full respray, those pesky 1/4 window seals and I reckon I am about done!!!

Most of my mates reckon I am mad but it has been a labour of love and when I first took it out on the highway from Adelaide to Melbourne last week it went like a bird with power to burn. It turns heads and when you can #### on some wog boy in his souped up Commodore from a standing start at traffic lights let me tell you it is well worth it.


Go the datos.


daz

who_your_datty_1200 I dont even know why I am bothering to reply to your dribble.
What exactly did I say to make you think that I think highly of myself? I actually do and I hope you do of yourself also. Do you have self esteem problems?
You say I am an easy target and its fun watching me react. How exactly do I react thats funny to you? I just say what I think and how I feel. Should I be ashamed to?
One thing you should know about me is, I enjoy constructive critisim. By that I mean if someone wants to debate a subject or disscuss their views I am happy to do so. I do however dislike replies from people adding their 2cents about the way of disscussion, all the while not adding anything important to the disscussion. Many so called " Arguements " that involve me, also involve PM's between the other member and I, showing one another that no disrespect is being shown and we are just debating the subject, even if we add snide remarks to one another all in good humour and mainly to give the kids something to keep them amused when they read our rambles. If I truely feel a remark I have made has offended someone I will most definatly send a PM to clarify the situation, but if I feel the remark was taken in good humour I wouldnt bother and I would sit back and wait for the return fire.
To this very day no member I have debated with has lost any of my respect, even if I have joked or to others it looks the opposite
A few members have how ever lost my respect, due to their butting in and claiming I should shut up, all the while they themselves not contributing to the discussion.
I will leave it at that. Thats me. Like me or hate me. Your big enough to decide. But chances are if you dont like me, I would of never liked you if we met anyways. No loss to me.
Now back to you statement of it being the first time I asked a question. In actual fact when I first became a member I asked a few questions. But nowdays there are no releveant questions that I require information on that I feel anyone here could answer, so why ask them? I dont claim to know everything especially many of the questions that are asked on here. Just to satisfy you, here is a question I am researching at the moment;
On my wagon I am fitting 2" dropped front axles, I have to make steering arms up. Could you share your knowledge of Ackermans Law so as I will have a better understanding of how my steering arms are positioned reguarding angles, so as to provide my wagon to have correct steering geometry so the inside front wheel will turn in the correct arc so as to not drag itself or the outside front wheel while cornering?
Cheers if you can answer that for me mate, if you can I will apologise and post it as a new topic so as to not hijack this thread anyfurther than you have made it go already.
I will also happily ask more questions in the future even if I think I will get little response on this forum because of its subject.

Back on subject now. YAJOKN I think that stuff would be cool. Jack has put a fridge and washing machine in his 1200 ute so anything is possible.

Cheers Steve.

Sorry for the long post but I feel it was required.