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Bezman, I hear you man but I dont want to use the ugly dizzie sticking out if we can rework the cleaner and factory setup to work with carbs.
Posted on: 2011/7/20 2:28
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i am looking into running rb26 throtle bodys that look to be std side draft patten on my webber manifold bellmouthed into plenem, boosted/NA will work on both injected ,std computer nistune custom look mint,sound mint,breath mint,one off made to fit do your homwork and nothing is hard
Posted on: 2011/7/20 3:10
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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like i said, if you wanted to do a good job of it you would want to stay injected and go quads
The main problem i could see with using quads and the standard computer is that its set up for an AFM. Which you dont usually have with quads as you usually dont have a plenum. Quads with a plenum would be easy as you would just run the AFM and be done with it, thats how much stock cars with ITBs are im pretty sure
But then you dont get the sound or all of the power benefits(unless you go a massive plenum but then the afm would probably have issues)
Id either do like tommo said and get some gtr throttles, which i have also heard are webber pattern or if you want even cleaner ones go for bike throttles which are alot less cluttered, smaller and lighter. Probably also cheaper
You would want to speak to someone that tunes the stock computers, Dr Drift, and see what they think about how it will respond with a lack of sensors You would possibly be able to redo some parameters so that it wont just go into limp mode when it doesnt have certain signals
But at the end of the day it would be easier to just go an ignition only ecu, which you should be able to get them to fun off most stock CAS's and then just set the advance dependant on the RPM and maybe throttle position
Posted on: 2011/7/20 3:45
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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I actually really want carbs!!!! I want to see minimum wiring so no injectors, fuel rail and minimum lines. Id definitely do as you guys say if going efi but would love to get use the stock CAS with modded brain. I already contact Nistune using their online form thanks Jason just the wait could mean they arent interested. Is there a local mob or freak that can help? otherwise i eill have to go Megajolt Jnr but will need crank CAS.
Nick thanks for the heads up will try DR Drift also
Posted on: 2011/7/20 6:15
Edited by D on 2011/7/20 15:54:07 Edited by D on 2011/7/20 15:54:28
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I see there is possibly beta support for the Nissan CAS coming in the MegaSquirt 3? That would allow you to do spark only and things like control radiator fans etc.
This would give you the ability to also use it for fuel in the future should you wish?
Posted on: 2011/7/20 6:44
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Megajolt Lite Jr requires no CAS. Just one sensor from an Aussie Ford. And can control accessories. You can use Holden DIS coils.
Posted on: 2011/7/20 6:46
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You could probably strip back a CA18de loom, so it just ran the CAS wiring, and ignitor/coil packs. I have a mate with a nistune tool. If you knew what curve you wanted, it wouldn't be too hard at all for a nistuner to write you a spark map. Downside would be you'd have to use the whole ECU to run it. Plus you'd still be stuck with an ignitor. The plus side would be you could keep the knock sensor, which would give you some detonation protection. Plus you can advance or retard your entire "map" simply by rotating the cas.
Posted on: 2011/7/20 7:38
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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DD wow no cam cas but needs 36 tooth unit on the crank pulley?
Bart, I like the sound of using the whole ecu, its cheap at wreckers and knock sensor unit is a bonus. rotating the cas to adavance and retard sounds awesome, not to mention cam adjustable pulleys are now 70usd a set. Now to find a nistuner that does this kind of application.
Posted on: 2011/7/20 13:28
Edited by D on 2011/7/20 15:57:12
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D, like I said get onto dr drift. He apparently really knows his ca's and is in melbourne
You could do a quad setup so that the injectors were underneath the throttles, and its not hard to hide wiring
Posted on: 2011/7/20 15:55
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No life (a.k.a. DattoMaster)
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Thanks for that will try them hopefully they can help. I always would run inj under the mani if I went efi but if not carbs Id rather quad throttle bodies close to the inlets, some nice tapered runners to a plenum and a polished impco 300 or bigger at the end of it :)
I love quad bike carbs, the look and sound they make. I re-measured my quads and they are 41mm unchoked so equivalent to 45 webers in some respects.
Posted on: 2011/7/20 16:07
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