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Hilux Calipers

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NOTE: For light alloy 4-pot calipers, see [[Brake_Swaps#4-piston_Calipers]] NOTE: For light alloy 4-pot calipers, see [[Brake_Swaps#4-piston_Calipers]]
-Hilux calipers are heavy, but are inexpensive and readily available high performance brake calipers.+Hilux calipers are 4-pot Sumitomo S12 calipers, though heavy they are inexpensive and readily available high performance brake calipers.
 + 
 +{{Album|11491}}
4-pot calipers advantage 4-pot calipers advantage
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* look cool * look cool
- Disadvantage+{{Album|8493}}
 + 
 + Disadvantages
* heavy (unless made of alloy) * heavy (unless made of alloy)
* expensive to repair * expensive to repair
* not any better than sliding calipers * not any better than sliding calipers
-= Parts =+{{Album|21911}}
 + 
 +Calipers use same bolt spacing as B310.A14 and other Datsun struts.
 + 
Caliper Bolt Spacing (dimension 'B') Caliper Bolt Spacing (dimension 'B')
* 3.5 inch (88.9 mm) * 3.5 inch (88.9 mm)
- http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/caliper_be.jpg+ {{Photo!|caliper_be.jpg}}
 += Parts =
 +[http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1277401,parttype,1704 RockAuto.com]
 +
 +* Sumitomo S12-type for 20 mm Rotor Thickness
 +* Sumitomo S13-type for 22 mm Rotor Thickness
 +
 + S12+8 for 289 mm x 20 mm rotors [http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/toyota,1988,pickup,2.4l+l4,1277591,brake+&+wheel+hub,caliper,1704 $61 at Rockauto.com]
 + * 4WD Hilux 1979-1990
 + * 4WD Pickup 1986-1988 (USA)
 + * Landcruiser 60-series 1976-1990
 + 2 small + 2 large pistons (43 + 34 mm)
 + * Centric 142.44014 (Left) & 142.44013 (Right) Loaded
 + * Centric 141.44014 & 141.44013 (Semi-loaded)
 +
 + S12W for 20 thick mm rotors
 + * 4WD Pickup 1992 (USA) 289 mm rotors
 + * 43 mm bore x 4
 + * Sumitomo S12W for 302 mm x 20 mm rotors
 +
 + S13WB for 22 mm thick rotors (low mount)
 + * Sumitomo: 45 mm bores (1.785")
 + Toyota 47750-35090
 + 1992 4Runner
 +
 + S13WA for 22 thick rotors (high mount)
 + 1991-1992 Landcruiser 4.0 (USA)
 + * Sumitomo: 45 mm bores
 +
 + {{Photo!|caliper_be.jpg}}
CALIPER DISC HEIGHT (Dimension 'E') CALIPER DISC HEIGHT (Dimension 'E')
S12W 63 mm S12W 63 mm
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RX-7 S4 80 mm RX-7 S4 80 mm
R33 80 mm R33 80 mm
-  
- Rotor Thickness 
- S12-type 20 mm 
- S13-type 22 mm 
- [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1277401,parttype,1704 RockAuto.com]+= Builds =
- 4WD Hilux 1979-1990+ Also see: [[S13_Brakes#S13_Brakes_on_A10_Struts|S12+8 calipers on Stanza struts]]
- 4WD Pickup 1986-1988 (USA)+
- Landcruiser 60-series 1976-1990+
- 2 small + 2 large pistons (43 + 34 mm)+
- * Centric 142.44014 (Left) & 142.44013 (Right) Loaded+
- * Centric 141.44014 & 141.44013 (Semi-loaded)+
- S12+8 for 289 mm x 20 mm rotors+
- +
- Landcruiser HZJ75 series have 4 equal size pistons+
- EC526 LN106 and LN130 1989-1991+
- * Look very much like an improved Nismo [[MK63 Brakes]] caliper in iron+
- * SW13A+
- * SW13B+
- * Sumitomo S13WA: 45.34 mm bores (1.785")+
- * Sumitomo S12W for 302 mm x 20 mm rotors+
-= Builds = 
S12-8 S12-8
-<br><img size=320>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/12659_4b6a91fde09e6.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=303308#forumpost303308 post]+<br>{{UploadPost|12659_4b6a91fde09e6.jpg|303308|320}}
s12+8 calipers - stanza strut s12+8 calipers - stanza strut
-<br><img size=320>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/2484_4c445d481c755.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=328383 post]+<br>{{UploadPost|2484_4c445d481c755.jpg|328383|320}}
Landcruiser 4-spot conversion on a Nissan C210 Skyline strut and running FWD 14 inch wheels for the offset. Landcruiser 4-spot conversion on a Nissan C210 Skyline strut and running FWD 14 inch wheels for the offset.
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Best rotor may be the 257mm number [[S13_Brakes#257_mm|40206-71E07]] S13/S14/M11/C22/C33/C34/P10/WP11/R32/A31/U12/U13/U14 unit. Best rotor may be the 257mm number [[S13_Brakes#257_mm|40206-71E07]] S13/S14/M11/C22/C33/C34/P10/WP11/R32/A31/U12/U13/U14 unit.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=303330#forumpost303330 S12+8]&nbsp;<img size=140>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/10243_4b6aa4e2347b3.jpg</img>+S12+8&nbsp;
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=303330#forumpost303330 photo]&nbsp;<img size=140>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/10243_4b6aa53042d2c.jpg</img>+<br>{{UploadPostH|10243_4b6aa4e2347b3.jpg|303330|256}} {{UploadPostH|10243_4b6aa53042d2c.jpg|303330|256}} {{UploadPostH|10243_4b6ab21d11b79.jpg|303330|256}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=303345#forumpost303345 photo]&nbsp;<img size=140>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/10243_4b6ab21d11b79.jpg</img>+
Hi-lux 4-spot calipers with Nissan P10 Pintara vented discs on A10 Stanza strut Hi-lux 4-spot calipers with Nissan P10 Pintara vented discs on A10 Stanza strut
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1324 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1324.jpg] click for comments [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2319 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2319.jpg]+<br>{{Album|1324}} {{Album|2319}}
200B strut with 200B discs and Landcruiser 4 spot calipers on left strut 200B strut with 200B discs and Landcruiser 4 spot calipers on left strut
Corona twin-piston calipers on the right Corona twin-piston calipers on the right
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9527 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9527.jpg]+<br>{{Album|9527}}
Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on 200B strut Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on 200B strut
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9436 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9436.jpg]+<br>{{Album|9436}}
Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on Stanza strut and 253 mm discs Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on Stanza strut and 253 mm discs
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9585 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9585.jpg]+<br>{{Album|9585}}
[[Category:Brake Modifications]] [[Category:Brake Modifications]]

Current revision

Toyoda Hilux/Landcruiser have compact 4-spot calipers, but they are heavy cast iron pieces.

Contents

Overview

NOTE: For light alloy 4-pot calipers, see Brake_Swaps#4-piston_Calipers

Hilux calipers are 4-pot Sumitomo S12 calipers, though heavy they are inexpensive and readily available high performance brake calipers.

11491.jpgAlbum 11491

4-pot calipers advantage
* allow for not very tall, but wide brake pads
* allow for small diameter wheel
* look cool

8493.jpgAlbum 8493

Disadvantages
* heavy (unless made of alloy)
* expensive to repair
* not any better than sliding calipers

21911.jpgAlbum 21911

Calipers use same bolt spacing as B310.A14 and other Datsun struts.

Caliper Bolt Spacing (dimension 'B')
* 3.5 inch (88.9 mm)
caliper_be.jpg

Parts

RockAuto.com

  • Sumitomo S12-type for 20 mm Rotor Thickness
  • Sumitomo S13-type for 22 mm Rotor Thickness
S12+8 for 289 mm x 20 mm rotors $61 at Rockauto.com
* 4WD Hilux 1979-1990
* 4WD Pickup 1986-1988 (USA)
* Landcruiser 60-series 1976-1990
2 small + 2 large pistons (43 + 34 mm)
* Centric 142.44014 (Left) & 142.44013 (Right) Loaded
* Centric 141.44014 & 141.44013 (Semi-loaded)

S12W for 20 thick mm rotors 
* 4WD Pickup 1992 (USA) 289 mm rotors
* 43 mm bore x 4
* Sumitomo S12W for 302 mm x 20 mm rotors
S13WB for 22 mm thick rotors (low mount)
* Sumitomo: 45 mm bores (1.785")
Toyota 47750-35090
1992 4Runner
S13WA for 22 thick rotors (high mount)
1991-1992 Landcruiser 4.0 (USA)
* Sumitomo: 45 mm bores
caliper_be.jpg
CALIPER DISC HEIGHT (Dimension 'E')
S12W     63 mm
S13WB    63 mm
S13W     72.5 mm
RX-7 S4  80 mm
R33      80 mm

Builds

Also see: S12+8 calipers on Stanza struts

S12-8
12659_4b6a91fde09e6.jpgPost 303308

s12+8 calipers - stanza strut
2484_4c445d481c755.jpgPost 328383

Landcruiser 4-spot conversion on a Nissan C210 Skyline strut and running FWD 14 inch wheels for the offset.

On A10 Stanza strut, vented 200B rotors (were they available vented?) with hilux/landcruiser 4-spots machined slightly to centre them over the rotor.

Discussions

Discussion: Rotor to suit Hilux caliper and stanza strut

Best rotor may be the 257mm number 40206-71E07 S13/S14/M11/C22/C33/C34/P10/WP11/R32/A31/U12/U13/U14 unit.

S12+8 
10243_4b6aa4e2347b3.jpgPost click for topic 10243_4b6aa53042d2c.jpgPost click for topic 10243_4b6ab21d11b79.jpgPost click for topic

Hi-lux 4-spot calipers with Nissan P10 Pintara vented discs on A10 Stanza strut
1324.jpgAlbum 1324 2319.jpgAlbum 2319

200B strut with 200B discs and Landcruiser 4 spot calipers on left strut Corona twin-piston calipers on the right
9527.jpgAlbum 9527

Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on 200B strut
9436.jpgAlbum 9436

Sumitomo twin-piston caliper on Stanza strut and 253 mm discs
9585.jpgAlbum 9585