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-Datsun 1200 used the tried and true leaf spring rear suspension, which was common among most cars - including american cars - in the early 1970s.+Datsun 1200 used the tried and true leaf spring rear suspension, which was common among most cars &mdash; including American cars &mdash; in the early 1970s. Also known as blade springs or cart springs.
-= Leaf Spring Mounting =+= Overview =
-Rear axle mounting and Shocks+Sedan and Coupe use the same leaf-pack.
-[[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3772 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/3772.jpg]+VB110 Wagon came with heavy-duty spring pack.
 + 
 +The [[B120]] 1200 Truck came with standard or optional (heavy-duty) rear leaf springs. Standard was a 4-leaf pack, while optional was a 5-leaf pack with a stiffer spring rate.
 + 
 + 55020-H1000 Sedan, Coupe $159 USD
 + 55020-H1400 Van (heavy duty)
 + 55020-G1000 Truck 4-leaf early
 + 55020-G1001 Truck 4-leaf 7510-
 + 55020-G1002 Truck 4-leaf 8504-
 + 55020-G1060 Truck 5-leaf 7804-8503
 + 55020-G1061 Truck 5-leaf 7804-8503 8504-
 + 
 +Ute 4-leaf pack Type 1
 +<br>{{Photo|leaf-overrider.jpg|sightings/forum}} {{Album|21316}}
 + 
 +Ute 4-leaf pack Type 2 (2nd leaf overlaps 1st leaf)
 +<br>{{Album|24758}}
 + 
 +Front Shackle, Rear 3-bolt Bracket
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_619c212581f9e.jpg|496241}}
 + 
 +Rear Shackle is same for all 1200s
 +<br>{{Album|24931}}
 + 
 +Front 3-point Mount Plate (Sedan, Coupe)
 +<br>{{Album|18675}}
 + 
 +Sedan rear shackle pin bracket
 +<br>{{Album|18674}}
 + 
 +Details (truck, Pin front mount)
 +<br>{{Album|24929}} {{Photo|leaf-pins.jpg|sightings/forum}}
 + 
 +Truck rear shackle pin bracket
 +<br>{{Album|12728}}
 +<br>Truck front leaf pin
 +<br>{{Album|12729}}
 + 
 +Custom adjustable shackles
 +<br>{{Photo|shackles.jpg}}
 + 
 += Spring Specifications =
 +All 1200 springs are: 1110 mm long, 50mm wide
 + 
 + Spring Rate
 + See [[Spring_Rates#Rear_Spring_Rate]]
 + 
 + Spring Eye Diameter
 + * Coupe, Sedan, Van: 35mm front, 23mm rear
 + 
 + Sedan, Coupe
 + * 3 leaf: 1 x 6mm thick, 2 x 7mm thick
 +
 + Van
 + * 4 leaf std: 3 x 6mm thick, 1 x 13mm thick
 + * 4 leaf H-D: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 1 x 11mm thick
 + 
 + Truck
 + * 4 leaf: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 1 x 13mm thick
 + * 5 leaf: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 2 x 10mm thick
 + 
 + Free Camber
 + * Sedan, Coupe: 109mm +-3
 + * Van : 131mm +-5
 + * Truck : 118.5 mm
 +
 + Laden Camber
 + * Sedan, Coupe: 11mm @ 192kg
 + * Van: 11mm @ 295kg
 + * Truck std 4-leaf: 18.5mm @ 267kg
 + * Truck HD 5-leaf: 15.1mm @ 376kg
 + 
 + Free Camber 'S'
 + * Truck: 118.5 mm
 +{{UploadPost|6317_51354966421f7.jpg|431466}}
 + 
 += Leaf Mounting =
 +{{See|Shocks#Mounting}}
 + 
 +B110 mounts leaf directly to metal (unlike B10 and B210 which use rubber-based isoclamp).
 + 
 +Rear axle mounting
 +<br>{{Album|24932}} {{Album|3772}} {{Album|14584}}
 + 
 +Sedan mounting with Vertical Shock bolted to axle tube bracket (coupe, wagon and truck have diagonally-oriented shock bolted to lower spring seat)
 +<br>{{Album|9744}} {{Album|28724}} {{Album|14584}}
 + 
 +B210 mounting uses an Isoclamp, with a rubber pad between the spring seat and leaf
 +<br>{{Album|28722|png}}
 + 
 +== Spring Seat ==
 +H10 Sedan (plain seat without shock stud)
 +<br>{{Photo!|55262-H1001.jpg}}
Spring Seat Assembly Spring Seat Assembly
Sedan: 55262-H1001 Sedan: 55262-H1001
- Truck: 55262-G1000 (RH) & 55266-G1000 (LH)+ Truck: 55262-G1000 (RH) 12mm shock Nut wide u-bolt
- Van: 55262-H1402 (RH) & 55266-H1402 (LH)+ Van: 55262-H1401 (RH) 12mm shock Nut narrow u-bolt
- Coupe: 55262-H1802 (RH) & 55266-H1802 (LH)+ 55262-H1402 (RH) (from '73-6)
 + Coupe: 55262-H1801 (RH) 8mm shock Nut
 + 55262-H1802 (RH) (from '73-5)
-U-bolts+{{Album|18451}}
-* 55247-H1001 CLIP-rear spring JDM ALL (except van)+
-* 55247-H1401 CLIP-rear spring JDM Van+
-* 55247-G1000 CLIP-REAR SPRING JDM B120 7510- [4-leaf packs]+
-* 55247-G1060 CLIP-REAR SPRING JDM B120 HARD 7804- [Heavy 5-leaf packs]+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18451 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/18451.jpg]+{{See|Shock absorbers}}
-= Bumpers =+G10 B120 Truck large stud for shock + large U-joints
- Coupe & Van rear suspension bumper (above the [[Leaf Spring]])+<br>{{Album|24027}} {{Album|27515}} {{Album|27516}}
- 55240-H1400 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE+ 
 +{{Album|25582}} {{Album|25583}}
 + 
 +H18 Coupe small stud for shock
 +<br>{{Album|1201}} {{UploadPost|174_54d5aa409d1da.jpg|463507}}
 + 
 +Sedan and Coupe parts
 +<br>{{Album|18721}}
 + 
 +B210 coupe
 +<br>{{Album|2491}}
 + 
 +== U-bolts ==
 +Ute
 +<br>{{Album|6212}} {{AlbumH|6211|jpg|300}} {{Album|6210}}
 + 
 + U-bolts
 + 55247-H1002 CLIP-rear spring Sedan, Coupe.USA
 + 55240-H1800 Coupe.JPM.early
 + 55247-H1401 CLIP-rear spring Van, Coupe.JDM.late
 + 55247-G1000 CLIP-REAR SPRING Truck 4-leaf
 + 55247-G1060 CLIP-REAR SPRING Truck 5-leaf 7804-
 + 
 + Fasteners for U-bolts (Sedan,Coupe,Van,Truck)
 + 08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10 x 1.25 8
 + 08915-14010 WASHER-spring lock 8
 + 
 +Sedan
 +<br>{{Album|14584}}
 + 
 +Ute U-bolts (same M10 diameter but wider spacing for larger axle tube)
 +<br>{{Album|24930}}
 + 
 +Ute U-bolts fit over 62 mm axle housings (62 mm inside diameter)
 +<br>{{Album|26351}}
 + 
 += Bound Bumpers =
 + Coupe, Truck & Van rear suspension bumper (above the axle housing)
 + 55240-G1900 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE > 55240-H1800 > 55240-H1400
08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10X1.25 08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10X1.25
08915-14010 WASHER-SPRING LOCK 08915-14010 WASHER-SPRING LOCK
 +
 +{{Album|6210}} {{Album|24926}}
Sedan rear suspension bumper (on the [[Shocks]]) Sedan rear suspension bumper (on the [[Shocks]])
55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A 55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A
56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B 56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B
 + {{Album|24801}}
 +Truck Bound Bumper
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_56c011bf552a9.jpg|476312}} {{Album|11171}}
-= Part Numbers =+= Torque Arrester =
 +The Torque Arrester (pinion snubber) is a rubber bumper that prevents the leafs from rotating too much under torque input.
-== Bushings ==+{{Main|Rear_Axle#Pinion_Snubber}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18316 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/18316.jpg]+
-<br>5 - 55044-H1001 BUSHING-rear suspension, front, upper (8)+
-<br>6 - [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33838&forum=1 55045-H1000] BUSHING-rear suspension, front, lower (4) [leaf eye]+
-<br>* NLA in North America+
-<br>6 - Wagon & Truck (ute) use 55045-H1400+
-<br>17 - 55046-H1000 BUSHING-rear suspension, upper (4)+
-<br>18 - 55047-H1000 BUSHING-rear suspension, lower (4) [leaf eye]+
-=== Make your own ===+{{Album!|24159}}
 + 
 += Bushings =
 +{{Album|18316}}
 + 
 + 5 55044-H1001 front upper Sedan, Coupe
 + * superseded by 55044-H5001 $4.90 USD
 + {{Album|24085}}
 + 6 [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33838&forum=1 55045-H1000] front lower Sedan, Coupe [leaf eye, course] $3.63 USD
 + 
 +{{Album|24086}} {{1000|Parts|Leaf%20Spring%20Eye%20Rubber%20(55045-H1000).jpg|Large}}
 + 
 + 17 55046-H1000 rear upper $2.27 USD
 + 
 +{{Album|24927}}
 + 
 + 18 55047-H1000 rear lower [leaf eye, plain] $1.22 USD
 + 
 + NOTE: B210 USA uses the same bushes as 1200 Coupe/Sedan.
 + 
 +Wagon & Ute
 +<br>{{Album|24922}}
 + V 55045-H1400 front Van, Truck [leaf eye, fine] $4.25 USD
 + 
 +{{Album|24924}}
 + 
 +{{Album|20900}}
 + 
 +55044-H5001
 +<br>{{Album|20429}}
 +
 +Ute/Van complete set
 +<br>{{Album|24928}}
 + 
 +== Make your own ==
Or, make your own performance bushings per Nissan Competition book: Or, make your own performance bushings per Nissan Competition book:
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33838&forum=1 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16273.jpg]+* {{Album!|16273}}
-** I went to a local platics place and bought a piece of +** "[{{Post|204463}} I went to a local platics place and bought a piece of ...]"
-=== Aftermarket ===+== Aftermarket ==
Or, get stiff aftermarket bushings: Or, get stiff aftermarket bushings:
-<blockquote><hr>I got in touch with MADDAT.COM and they knew exactly what I was looking for. They had it in stock from Super Pro (yes they're polyurethane), sent them right out, and I received them 8 days later here in Arizona, USA. Tamra from the sales department was easy to work with and very helpful. I would recommend these guys to anyone who needs parts for their 1200.+<blockquote><hr>I got in touch with [[Maddat|MADDAT.COM]] and they knew exactly what I was looking for. They had it in stock from Super Pro (yes they're polyurethane), sent them right out, and I received them 8 days later here in Arizona, USA. Tamra from the sales department was easy to work with and very helpful. I would recommend these guys to anyone who needs parts for their 1200.
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33838&forum=1 Front spring eye bushing on rear leaf spring]<hr></blockquote> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33838&forum=1 Front spring eye bushing on rear leaf spring]<hr></blockquote>
 +* Polyurethane bushings (north america): [http://www.parbo.com.mx/EN/catalogo.php?buscador=buje_6&nombre_s=Bujes%20Para%20Muelle&pagina=3 Parbo]
 +
 +* [http://www.superpro.com.au/find/superpro-bushing-kit-for-a-superpro-suspension-parts-and-poly-bushings-for-nissan-1200-b110-sedan-1970-1974-/productnr-SPF0023K/cid-999500224/vid- SuperPro Bushings]
 +
 +* [http://www.durothane.com/dt1240-spring-eye-bushing Durothane/Dyco] (texas)
 +
 += Lowering Springs =
 +{{Main|Lowering Springs}}
 +
 +{{Photo!|5.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts}}
 +
 +{{See|Lowering}}
 +
 += 120Y Springs =
 +120Y B210 leaf spring is 1165mm. It is 55mm longer than 1200 B110 (1110mm) and is not interchangeable.
 +
 +{{Album|12482}}
 +
 +B210 use an Isoclamp system which means the bolts are farther apart, even though the leaves are the same 50 mm width as 1200 leaf springs.
 +
 +B210 Coupe
 +<br>{{Album|2487}} {{Album|2488}}
 +
 +B210 Sedan U-bolts (plate has wider spacing than B110)
 +<br>{{Album|18491}}
 +
 +== Isoclamp ==
 +B210 use an Isoclamp system, similar to that used by B10.
 +
 +Bolt holes 3 inches
 +<br>{{Upload|174_565973852692c.jpg}}
 +
 +Datsun 1000 clamp
 +<br>{{Album|19924}}
 +
 += Alternative Leaf Springs =
 +Composite Leafs - See [[Suspension_upgrades#Smooth_ride]]
 +
 +{{Album!|967}}
 +
 += Adjustable =
 +Unknown adjustable suspension. Does it work well?
 +<br>{{Album|11450}}
 +
 += Improving =
 +New leaf springs work very well, but worn leafs don't slide too well.
-Polyurethane bushings out of Mexico: [http://www.parbo.com.mx/partes.php?tipo=B&fam=X&ord=3&ver=9&leng=&pag=21 Parbo]+{{Main|Suspension_upgrades#Smooth_ride}}
 +&#12522;&#12540;&#12501; &#12473;&#12503;&#12522;&#12531;&#12464; &#12471;&#12515;&#12483;&#12463;&#12523; &#12502;&#12483;&#12471;&#12517;
-[[Category:Rear Axle And Rear Suspension]]+[[Category:Rear Axle And Rear Suspension]]{{End}}

Current revision

Datsun 1200 used the tried and true leaf spring rear suspension, which was common among most cars — including American cars — in the early 1970s. Also known as blade springs or cart springs.

Contents

Overview

Sedan and Coupe use the same leaf-pack.

VB110 Wagon came with heavy-duty spring pack.

The B120 1200 Truck came with standard or optional (heavy-duty) rear leaf springs. Standard was a 4-leaf pack, while optional was a 5-leaf pack with a stiffer spring rate.

55020-H1000 Sedan, Coupe $159 USD
55020-H1400 Van (heavy duty)
55020-G1000 Truck 4-leaf early
55020-G1001 Truck 4-leaf 7510-
55020-G1002 Truck 4-leaf 8504-
55020-G1060 Truck 5-leaf 7804-8503
55020-G1061 Truck 5-leaf 7804-8503 8504-

Ute 4-leaf pack Type 1
leaf-overrider.jpg 21316.jpgAlbum 21316

Ute 4-leaf pack Type 2 (2nd leaf overlaps 1st leaf)
24758.jpgAlbum 24758

Front Shackle, Rear 3-bolt Bracket
174_619c212581f9e.jpgPost 496241

Rear Shackle is same for all 1200s
24931.jpgAlbum 24931

Front 3-point Mount Plate (Sedan, Coupe)
18675.jpgAlbum 18675

Sedan rear shackle pin bracket
18674.jpgAlbum 18674

Details (truck, Pin front mount)
24929.jpgAlbum 24929 leaf-pins.jpg

Truck rear shackle pin bracket
12728.jpgAlbum 12728
Truck front leaf pin
12729.jpgAlbum 12729

Custom adjustable shackles
shackles.jpg

Spring Specifications

All 1200 springs are: 1110 mm long, 50mm wide

Spring Rate
See Spring_Rates#Rear_Spring_Rate
Spring Eye Diameter
* Coupe, Sedan, Van: 35mm front,  23mm rear
Sedan, Coupe
* 3 leaf: 1 x 6mm thick, 2 x 7mm thick

Van 
* 4 leaf std: 3 x 6mm thick, 1 x 13mm thick
* 4 leaf H-D: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 1 x 11mm thick
Truck 
* 4 leaf: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 1 x 13mm thick
* 5 leaf: 2 x 6mm thick, 1 x 7mm thick, 2 x 10mm thick
Free Camber
* Sedan, Coupe: 109mm +-3
* Van         : 131mm +-5
* Truck       : 118.5 mm 

Laden Camber
* Sedan, Coupe: 11mm @ 192kg
* Van: 11mm @ 295kg
* Truck std 4-leaf: 18.5mm @ 267kg
* Truck HD 5-leaf:  15.1mm @ 376kg
Free Camber 'S'
* Truck: 118.5 mm

6317_51354966421f7.jpgPost 431466

Leaf Mounting

See also: Shocks#Mounting

B110 mounts leaf directly to metal (unlike B10 and B210 which use rubber-based isoclamp).

Rear axle mounting
24932.jpgAlbum 24932 3772.jpgAlbum 3772 14584.jpgAlbum 14584

Sedan mounting with Vertical Shock bolted to axle tube bracket (coupe, wagon and truck have diagonally-oriented shock bolted to lower spring seat)
9744.jpgAlbum 9744 28724.jpgAlbum 28724 14584.jpgAlbum 14584

B210 mounting uses an Isoclamp, with a rubber pad between the spring seat and leaf
28722.pngAlbum 28722

Spring Seat

H10 Sedan (plain seat without shock stud)
55262-H1001.jpg

Spring Seat Assembly
Sedan: 55262-H1001 
Truck: 55262-G1000 (RH) 12mm shock Nut wide u-bolt
Van:   55262-H1401 (RH) 12mm shock Nut narrow u-bolt
       55262-H1402 (RH)   (from '73-6)
Coupe: 55262-H1801 (RH)  8mm shock Nut
       55262-H1802 (RH)   (from '73-5)

18451.jpgAlbum 18451

See also: Shock absorbers

G10 B120 Truck large stud for shock + large U-joints
24027.jpgAlbum 24027 27515.jpgAlbum 27515 27516.jpgAlbum 27516

25582.jpgAlbum 25582 25583.jpgAlbum 25583

H18 Coupe small stud for shock
1201.jpgAlbum 1201 174_54d5aa409d1da.jpgPost 463507

Sedan and Coupe parts
18721.jpgAlbum 18721

B210 coupe
2491.jpgAlbum 2491

U-bolts

Ute
6212.jpgAlbum 6212 6211.jpgAlbum 6211 6210.jpgAlbum 6210

U-bolts
55247-H1002 CLIP-rear spring Sedan, Coupe.USA
55240-H1800 Coupe.JPM.early 
55247-H1401 CLIP-rear spring Van, Coupe.JDM.late
55247-G1000 CLIP-REAR SPRING Truck 4-leaf
55247-G1060 CLIP-REAR SPRING Truck 5-leaf 7804- 
Fasteners for U-bolts (Sedan,Coupe,Van,Truck)
08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10 x 1.25 8
08915-14010 WASHER-spring lock 8

Sedan
14584.jpgAlbum 14584

Ute U-bolts (same M10 diameter but wider spacing for larger axle tube)
24930.jpgAlbum 24930

Ute U-bolts fit over 62 mm axle housings (62 mm inside diameter)
26351.jpgAlbum 26351

Bound Bumpers

Coupe, Truck & Van rear suspension bumper (above the axle housing)
55240-G1900 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE > 55240-H1800 > 55240-H1400
08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10X1.25
08915-14010 WASHER-SPRING LOCK

6210.jpgAlbum 6210 24926.jpgAlbum 24926

Sedan rear suspension bumper (on the Shocks)
55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A
56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B
24801.jpgAlbum 24801

Truck Bound Bumper
174_56c011bf552a9.jpgPost 476312 11171.jpgAlbum 11171

Torque Arrester

The Torque Arrester (pinion snubber) is a rubber bumper that prevents the leafs from rotating too much under torque input.

24159.jpg

Bushings

18316.jpgAlbum 18316

5 55044-H1001 front upper Sedan, Coupe
  * superseded by 55044-H5001 $4.90 USD
  24085.jpgAlbum 24085
6 55045-H1000 front lower Sedan, Coupe [leaf eye, course] $3.63 USD

24086.jpgAlbum 24086 Leaf%20Spring%20Eye%20Rubber%20(55045-H1000).jpg

17 55046-H1000 rear upper $2.27 USD

24927.jpgAlbum 24927

18 55047-H1000 rear lower [leaf eye, plain] $1.22 USD
NOTE: B210 USA uses the same bushes as 1200 Coupe/Sedan.

Wagon & Ute
24922.jpgAlbum 24922

V 55045-H1400 front Van, Truck [leaf eye, fine] $4.25 USD

24924.jpgAlbum 24924

20900.jpgAlbum 20900

55044-H5001
20429.jpgAlbum 20429

Ute/Van complete set
24928.jpgAlbum 24928

Make your own

Or, make your own performance bushings per Nissan Competition book:

Aftermarket

Or, get stiff aftermarket bushings:


I got in touch with MADDAT.COM and they knew exactly what I was looking for. They had it in stock from Super Pro (yes they're polyurethane), sent them right out, and I received them 8 days later here in Arizona, USA. Tamra from the sales department was easy to work with and very helpful. I would recommend these guys to anyone who needs parts for their 1200. Front spring eye bushing on rear leaf spring
  • Polyurethane bushings (north america): Parbo

Lowering Springs

5.jpg

See also: Lowering

120Y Springs

120Y B210 leaf spring is 1165mm. It is 55mm longer than 1200 B110 (1110mm) and is not interchangeable.

12482.jpgAlbum 12482

B210 use an Isoclamp system which means the bolts are farther apart, even though the leaves are the same 50 mm width as 1200 leaf springs.

B210 Coupe
2487.jpgAlbum 2487 2488.jpgAlbum 2488

B210 Sedan U-bolts (plate has wider spacing than B110)
18491.jpgAlbum 18491

Isoclamp

B210 use an Isoclamp system, similar to that used by B10.

Bolt holes 3 inches
174_565973852692c.jpgUpload click to view

Datsun 1000 clamp
19924.jpgAlbum 19924

Alternative Leaf Springs

Composite Leafs - See Suspension_upgrades#Smooth_ride

967.jpg

Adjustable

Unknown adjustable suspension. Does it work well?
11450.jpgAlbum 11450

Improving

New leaf springs work very well, but worn leafs don't slide too well.

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