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Turn Signals

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-[[Category:Lighting System]]+Turn signals (flashers, blinkers, indicators, winkers) -- all 1200s have them. The Hazards (4-way warning flashers) are part of the turn signal circuit, although not equipped in some countries. Optional was the [[Passing Lamp]] -- a turn signal switch with built-in passing button at the end of the stalk, which flashes the high beams.
-Turn signal or flashers, blinkers, indicators, winkers -- all 1200s have them. The Hazards (4-way warning flashers) are part of the turn signal circuit, although not equipped in some countries. Optional was the [[Passing Lamp]] -- a turn signal switch with built-in passing button at the end of the stalk, which flashes the high beams.+{{See|Side Lamps}}<br>
= Also See = = Also See =
-* [[Lighting_System#Turn_Signal_Switch]]+* Turn Signal [[Lighting_System#Turn_Signal_Switch|Switch]]
-* [[Lamp Wiring]]+* Turn Signal [[Lamp_Wiring#Turn_Signals|Wiring]]
= Overview = = Overview =
These components comprise the T/S system: These components comprise the T/S system:
-* T/S switch (in steering column)+ * [[Turn signal switch]] (in steering column)
-* [[Lamp Wiring#Hazards|Hazard switch]] (on column cover)+ * [[Lamp Wiring#Hazards|Hazard switch]] (on column cover)
-* [[Headlight_Wiring|Light Switch]] (in dash)+ * [[Headlight_Wiring|Light Switch]] (in dash)
-* [[Lamp Wiring|Wiring]] & Fuse+ * [[Lamp_Wiring#Turn_Signals|Wiring]] & Fuse
-* [[Lamps]] (lens & socket & bulbs) front, dash, rear+ * Lamps (lens & socket & bulbs)
- + [[Front Combination Lamp]]s
 + [[Cluster Gauge]] (dash indicator bulbs)
 + [[Tail Lights|Rear Combination Lamps]]
RHD & LHD use the same T/S switch assembly. Just rotate it 180 degrees. RHD & LHD use the same T/S switch assembly. Just rotate it 180 degrees.
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19664 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19664.jpg]+<br>{{Album|23134}} {{Album|19664}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19662 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19662.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19663 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19663.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19664 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19664.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23134 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23134.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23135 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23135.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23136 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23136.jpg]+{{Album|19662}} {{Album|19663}} {{Album|23135}} {{Album|23136}}
= Switch Removal and Installation = = Switch Removal and Installation =
# Remove [[Steering Wheel]] # Remove [[Steering Wheel]]
-#: http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19664.jpg 
# Remove Steering Column cover (clamshell) # Remove Steering Column cover (clamshell)
-#: [[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2136 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2136.jpg] [[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19648 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19648.jpg]+#: {{Album|2136}} {{AlbumH|19648|jpg|247}}
# Unplug wiring connectors down along steering column # Unplug wiring connectors down along steering column
-#: [[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23136 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23136.jpg]+#: {{Album|23136}}
# Remove position screw # Remove position screw
-#: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24404 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24404.jpg]+#: {{Album|24404}}
# Loosen the two clamping screws # Loosen the two clamping screws
-#: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23135 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23135.jpg]+#: {{Album|23135}}
# Pull straight off column # Pull straight off column
= Flasher Location = = Flasher Location =
 +The flasher units (hazard and turn-signal) bolt to each side of the pedal box strut:
 +<br>{{Album|15949}}
 +
 +The other flasher bolts to the other side of this strut.
== non-USA == == non-USA ==
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NILES Hazards & Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace NILES Hazards & Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15957 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15957.jpg]+<br>{{Album|15957}}
== USA == == USA ==
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NILES [[Hazard]] flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace NILES [[Hazard]] flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15957 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15957.jpg]+<br>{{Album|15957}}
NILES '''Turn Signal''' flasher unit bolts to left side of column brace NILES '''Turn Signal''' flasher unit bolts to left side of column brace
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15958 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15958.jpg]+<br>{{Album|15958}}
= Troubleshooting = = Troubleshooting =
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* NILES 12.8V CF101 23Wx2+5W+3.4W * NILES 12.8V CF101 23Wx2+5W+3.4W
AUS Datsun 510 25520-89985 AUS Datsun 510 25520-89985
 +
 + AUS Datsun B210 25520-88991 (supercedes 25520-88959)
 + * NILES TF641
25520-88900 25520-88900
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In the orginal B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit. In the orginal B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15957 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15957.jpg]+{{Album|15957}}
Newer style Newer style
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19656 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19656.jpg]+<br>{{Album|19656}}
Early Style Early Style
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24407 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24407.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24406 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24406.jpg] +<br>{{Album|24407}} {{Album|24406}}
Aftermarket Aftermarket
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24409 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24409.jpg]+<br>{{Album|24409}}
=== Turn Signal Flasher === === Turn Signal Flasher ===
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* Datsun Fairlady AUS * Datsun Fairlady AUS
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24408 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24408.jpg] +{{Album|24408}}
B210 USA spec is different: 25520-89976 or 25520-89966 B210 USA spec is different: 25520-89976 or 25520-89966
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== TS/Beam Switch Assembly == == TS/Beam Switch Assembly ==
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19645 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19645.jpg] +* Standard type
- +* Passing lamp type
-* 25540-H1007 SWITCH COMP-turn signal & dimmer STD, B120 -7803 $155.78 USD+{{Main|Turn signal switch}}
-** superceded 25540-H1006+{{Album|19645}}
-* 25540-H1100 SWITCH COMP-turn signal & dimmer +
-*: [[Headlight_Wiring#Passing Light Switch|passing switch type]]+
-** OPTION DX, GL, GX+
-** Optional on B120 -7803+
-** Standard on B120 7804-+
== Hazard & Parking Light Switch == == Hazard & Parking Light Switch ==
-<img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/2142.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2142 album]+4-way '''hazard''' flashing lights
-USA+{{Main|Hazards}}
-* 25290-H4600 COMP-SWITCH HAZARD 0172-+
-** replaced 25290-H1900 COMP-SWITCH HAZARD+
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2136 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2136.jpg] +
-** 08513-30812 SCREW FIXING HAZARD SWITCH (3)+
-** 08915-13310 WASHER-SPRING (3)+
 +{{Album!|2136}}
-JDM+== Light Switch ==
-* 25290-H1001 SWITCH ASSY-hazard & parking B110 [also used by B120 -7803]+The main [[Lighting Switch]] (headlight switch) feeds power to the [[#TS/Beam Switch Assembly]] (lever on the steering column).
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19647 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19647.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26324 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/26324.jpg]+
-*: 3-button Hazard & Parking Switch+
-** 85-13308-12 SCREW (3)+
-** 89-15133-1 WASHER-lock (3)+
-* 25880-H2500 SWITCH COMP-hazard & parking PB110 
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18266 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18266.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11443 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/11443.jpg]  
- 
- 
-[[B120]] Pickup 
-Early  
-* 25290-H1001 SWITCH ASSY-HAZARD & PARKING -7803 [also used by sedan/coupe/van] 
-** 08513-30812 Screw, fixing 
- 
-Facelift (brown?) 
-* 25290-G1060 SWITCH ASSY-HAZARD & PARKING 7804-8608 
-* 25290-G1260 SWITCH ASSY-HAZARD & PARKING 8608-8910 
-** 08513-30812 Screw, fixing 
- 
- 
-Late Model (gray) 
-* 25290-95W00 SWITCH ASSY-HAZARD & PARKING 8910- 
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19648 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19648.jpg] 
-** 08513-30812 Screw, fixing 
-* Single Hazard button (no parking light buttons, as in earlier JDM switches) 
- 
-H1001 
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26324.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26324 album] 
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H1a.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_H1a.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H1c.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_H1c.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H1d.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_H1d.jpg] 
- 
-<img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H2a.jpg</img> <img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H2b.jpg</img> 
- 
-H25 PB110 hazard & parking (or 510?) 
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/pbh1.jpg</img> [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/pbh2.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_pbh2.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/pbh3.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_pbh3.jpg] 
- 
-== Light Switch == 
* 25160-H1101 SWITCH COMP-lighting B110 (also B120) * 25160-H1101 SWITCH COMP-lighting B110 (also B120)
* 25160-H1110 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog lamp switch (op.) * 25160-H1110 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog lamp switch (op.)
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= Custom = = Custom =
-Also here's a custom update: Add a Bluebird multi-switch. Bolts to the 1200 column:+Also here's a custom update: Add a Bluebird multi-switch (which looks like the [[B310 Steering Column]] switch). Bolts to the 1200 column:
* T/S switch * T/S switch
* Light switch * Light switch
* Wiper switch * Wiper switch
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14806 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/14806.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14807 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/14807.jpg]+{{Album|14806}} {{Album|14807}}
 + 
 +{{Album|1211}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1211 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1211.jpg]+[[Category:Lighting System]]{{End}}

Current revision

Turn signals (flashers, blinkers, indicators, winkers) -- all 1200s have them. The Hazards (4-way warning flashers) are part of the turn signal circuit, although not equipped in some countries. Optional was the Passing Lamp -- a turn signal switch with built-in passing button at the end of the stalk, which flashes the high beams.

See also: Side Lamps

Contents

[edit]

Also See

[edit]

Overview

These components comprise the T/S system: 

* Turn signal switch (in steering column)
* Hazard switch (on column cover)
* Light Switch (in dash)
* Wiring & Fuse
* Lamps (lens & socket & bulbs)
  Front Combination Lamps
  Cluster Gauge (dash indicator bulbs)
  Rear Combination Lamps

RHD & LHD use the same T/S switch assembly. Just rotate it 180 degrees.
23134.jpgAlbum 23134 19664.jpgAlbum 19664

19662.jpgAlbum 19662 19663.jpgAlbum 19663 23135.jpgAlbum 23135 23136.jpgAlbum 23136

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Switch Removal and Installation

  1. Remove Steering Wheel
  2. Remove Steering Column cover (clamshell)
    2136.jpgAlbum 2136 19648.jpgAlbum 19648
  3. Unplug wiring connectors down along steering column
    23136.jpgAlbum 23136
  4. Remove position screw
    24404.jpgAlbum 24404
  5. Loosen the two clamping screws
    23135.jpgAlbum 23135
  6. Pull straight off column
[edit]

Flasher Location

The flasher units (hazard and turn-signal) bolt to each side of the pedal box strut:
15949.jpgAlbum 15949

The other flasher bolts to the other side of this strut.

[edit]

non-USA

The flasher can is bolted to the right side of the steering column brace.

NILES Hazards & Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
15957.jpgAlbum 15957

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USA

USA 1200s have two flashers.

NILES Hazard flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
15957.jpgAlbum 15957

NILES Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to left side of column brace
15958.jpgAlbum 15958

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Troubleshooting

See Turn Signal Testing

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Part Numbers

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AUS Flasher 

AUS Datsun B10 25520-89981 (Audible) > 25520-89900
* NILES 12.8V CF101 23Wx2+5W+3.4W
AUS Datsun 510 25520-89985

AUS Datsun B210 25520-88991 (supercedes 25520-88959)
* NILES TF641

25520-88900
* Datsun B10 AUS
* Datsun 910 Bluebird AUS/EUR
* Nissan S110 Silvia JAP
* Datsun S110 Silvia/Gazelle EUR
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Japan Flasher

Japan-market 1200s used a single flasher unit to operate both the Turn Signals or the Hazards (depending on position of the Hazard switch). 

1200 including truck
25520-89974 UNIT-flasher, hazard & turn signal
* supercedes 25520-89962 

B210 1973-1975
25520-89974 UNIT-flasher, hazard & turn signal

Late B210 used seperate flashers for Turn Signal & Hazards. 

B210 1976-1977
25520-89995 UNIT ASSY-TURN SIGNAL FLASHER
25520-89997 UNIT ASSY-HAZARD FLASHER [SAME AS USA]

B10
25520-89000 > 25520-13200
[edit]

USA Flasher Units

T/S flasher unit and Hazards flasher unit look similar (both are two-prong flashers), but are different specification. The load varies: Hazard flasher activates all lights at once, while T/S flasher does one side at a time. 

Terminals
X: battery
L: lamp

Candlepower: 32 [32CP]

Cycles per Minute: 80 to 90 C/M

In the orginal B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit.

15957.jpgAlbum 15957

Newer style
19656.jpgAlbum 19656

Early Style
24407.jpgAlbum 24407 24406.jpgAlbum 24406

Aftermarket
24409.jpgAlbum 24409

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Turn Signal Flasher 

T/S Flasher
B5520-89993 UNIT-FLASHER 12V 50W $14 USD
NILES CF115 (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
* superceded 25520-89901
used by
* Datsun B110 USA
* Datsun 510
* Datsun 520/521
* Datsun Fairlady AUS

24408.jpgAlbum 24408

B210 USA spec is different: 25520-89976 or 25520-89966

B310 USA spec is different: 25520-89983 (clip on, not bolt-on).

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Hazard Flasher 

Hazard flasher
25520-89997 UNIT HAZARD FLASHER $24 USD
* supercedes 25520-89990 (original B110 spec) 
* superceded 25520-89996 (original B310 spec)
NILES F215AF (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
NIEHOFF 562
used by
* Datsun B110 USA
* Datsun B210 USA
* Datsun B310 USA


Aftermarket Units may replace one or both part numbers. 

NIEHOFF 562 (suitable for Hazards) is compatible with:
* 25520-89976
* 25520-89978
* 25520-89983
* 25520-89996
* 25520-89997
* 25520-B8060
* 25520-E46000
* 38300-634-671
* 38300-671-671
* 38300-671-672
* 38300-692-671
* 38300-692-672
* 38350-634-003
* 38350-634-671
* 38350-671-003
* 38350-671-013
* 2113-66-470
* 6832-10-072
* MB031754
* MB031755
* MB031756
* 6832-10073
* 7861-22000
used by:
71-85 American Motors 
80-87 Aston Martin 
71-85 Chrysler 
71-85 Dodge 
71-85 Dodge Truck 
67-82 Ford (English) 
70-84 Honda 
61-82 Jaguar 
68-82 Lotus 
61-81 MG 
70-84 Mazda 
67-80 Mercury 
83-91 Mitsubishi 
71-85 Nissan-Datsun 
71-85 Plymouth 
71-85 Plymouth Truck
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Universal Flasher

Flasher for either T/S or Hazards. My Sunny Truck is using this common USA unit. 

Aftermarket universal thermal flasher
BUSS FLASHER 552/536 12V $3.19 @ O'Reilly
2-terminal
32CP MAX6
Taiwan
flashes 2-3 Turn Signal 32CP lamps 
flashes 2-6 Hazard lamps
clip on type [no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it under the dash]
[edit]

Electronic Flasher

An "electronic" flasher may be used to accomodate non-stock bulbs, but requires extra wiring.

By contrast, the original thermal flasher types only work with a specific number and wattage of bulbs.

[edit]

TS/Beam Switch Assembly

  • Standard type
  • Passing lamp type
Main: Turn signal switch

19645.jpgAlbum 19645

[edit]

Hazard & Parking Light Switch

4-way hazard flashing lights

Main: Hazards

2136.jpg

[edit]

Light Switch

The main Lighting Switch (headlight switch) feeds power to the #TS/Beam Switch Assembly (lever on the steering column).

  • 25160-H1101 SWITCH COMP-lighting B110 (also B120)
  • 25160-H1110 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog lamp switch (op.)
  • 25160-H2510 SWITCH COMP-lighting, w/o fog (op.)
  • 25160-H2511 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog (op.)
  • 25165-H1000 KNOB ASSY-lighting
  • 25165-E7500 KNOB ASSY-lighting, with illumination, w/o fog (op.)
  • 25170-H2510 LAMP ASSY-illumination (op.)
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Custom

Also here's a custom update: Add a Bluebird multi-switch (which looks like the B310 Steering Column switch). Bolts to the 1200 column:

  • T/S switch
  • Light switch
  • Wiper switch

14806.jpgAlbum 14806 14807.jpgAlbum 14807

1211.jpgAlbum 1211 

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