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Hitachi Twin Carb A12T

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-[[A12|A12T]] is the twin carb engine fitted to Datsun Sunny [[B210]] and Nissan Cherry PE10. It uses the [[Hitachi Twin Carb]] system, dual 38mm Hitachi sidedrafts. These mainly differ from the [[A12GX Engine]] Hitachis in that they are have a new idle speed and idle mixture system. They can be easily distinguished by their flat tops.+[[A12|A12T]] is the twin carb engine fitted to Datsun Sunny [[B210]] and Nissan Cherry PE10. It uses the [[Hitachi Twin Carb]] system, dual 38mm Hitachi sidedrafts. These mainly differ from the [[A12GX Engine]] Hitachis in that they have a new idle speed and idle mixture system. They can be easily distinguished by their flat tops.
- +
-Also see: [[A12T_Engine_Photo_Index|A12T Photos]]+
 +{{Hitachi Twin Carb Navbox}}
= Overview = = Overview =
-[[JDM]] 1973-1975 B210 GX models had either an A12S (single-carb) or optional A12T (twin-carb) engine. While the A12T is very similar to the A12 GX Engine, it used different flattop Hitachis and a slightly different intake manifold with a few more fittings. These are good carburetors that are not jetted leaner, but instead have a closed fuel bowl vent system. +[[JDM]] 1973-1975 B210 GX models had either an A12S (single-carb) or optional A12T (twin-carb) engine. While the A12T is very similar to the A12 GX Engine, it used different '''flattop''' Hitachis and a slightly different intake manifold with a few more fittings. These are good carburetors that are not jetted leaner, but instead have a closed fuel bowl vent system. They are almost identical to the dome-top carburetors except for the IMS fittings on the top of the carbs. The total system (inlet manifold and hoses) is more complicated to allow idle mixture and speed adjustments and capture all the gasoline fumes into the air cleaner.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=776 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/776.jpg]+JDM Datsun [[Cherry]] (E10) models also used the A12T engine, including the famous Cherry [[X-1R]] vehicle.
-JDM Datsun Cherry (E10) models also used the A12T engine, including the famous Cherry X1-R vehicle.+{{Album|1933}} {{Album|8126}} {{Album|8125}} {{Album|8362}}
-Datsun Competition ([[Nissan Competition]]) sold a open-vented system:+{{Album|1002}}
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7554 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/7554.jpg]+
-= Closed Vent System =+{{Photo2|10.jpg}} {{Photo2|11.jpg}} {{Photo2|12.jpg}}
-Ummm... smells good, and works good too.+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1132 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/1132.jpg]+= Sources =
-<br>Thick hoses: Idle Mixture System (IMS)+The A12T twin carb engine was fitted to Datsun Sunny B210 and Nissan Cherry PE10.
 + 
 +1973-1977 Sunny [[B210]] GX option engine (normal B210 GX was fitted with a single-carb engine)
 +<br>{{Album|2846}} {{Album|2845}}
 + 
 +Cherry [[X-1R]]
 +<br>{{wikiCommons|Nissan_Cherry#First_generation_(E10;_1970–1977)|9/9e|1970_Nissan_Cherry_1200X-1_engine.jpg}} {{Album|29811}}
 + 
 += Manifolds =
 +Like the A12 GX engine, the A12T in the B210 used a [[Exhaust_Manifold#A12_GX|dual-outlet divorced exhaust manifold]].
 +<br>However, the [[#Inlet Manifold]] was updated with two additional connection ports.
 + 
 +{{Album|29812}} {{Album|29813}} {{Album|29814}}
 + 
 += Inlet Manifold =
 +{{Album|29810}}
 + 
 +{{Twin-carb Intake Identification}}
 + 
 += Idle Mixture System =
 +Ummm... smells good, and works good too. JDM non-competition (stock) Hitachi sidedraft flat-top carburetors come with an advanced Idle Mixture System (IMS), for fine tuning of the idle mixture.
 + 
 +Thick hoses are for Idle Mixture System (IMS)
 +<br>{{Album|1132}}
 + 
 +Idle Mixture System
 +<br>{{Album|23191}}
IMS body with Mixture Screw IMS body with Mixture Screw
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=21385 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/21385.jpg]+<br>{{Album-|21385}}
-= Adjustments =+== Adjustments ==
-Idle mixture (IMS) is possible with the new flat-top Hitachi design. +Idle mixture (IMS) is possible with the new flat-top Hitachi design. This is a better system than the older style GX carbs, but requires a new way of adjustment.
 +# First of all, check the ignition timing and set it correctly
 +# Next, check the float levels. Nothing will work correctly if this is off
 +# Check oil damper level, and top off with 10W-30 if needed
 +# Loosen balance adjusting screw completely
 +# Set idle speed to 750 rpm by turning idle speed screw
 +#* Clockwise: speed decreases
 +#* Anti-clockwise: speed increase
 +# Synchronize the twin carbs by turning Balance screw
 +# Turn Mixture screw back and forth until best lean idle is achieved
 +# Reset idle speed to 750 rpm
 +# Lean out Mixture until speed drops to 725 rpm
 +<div Title="click 'Album' to view comments" style="width:400px; border:thin solid black;">{{Album|21386}}
Green: Hoses to air cleaner (including the curved IMS hose) Green: Hoses to air cleaner (including the curved IMS hose)
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=21386 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/21386.jpg]+Blue: Fuel lines to fuel bowls
-<br>Blue: Fuel lines to fuel bowls+Red: Idle speed system (air bypass system), connects to IMS body vents</div>
-<br>Red: Idle speed system, is apparently an air bypass system.+ 
 +<br><div Title="click 'Album' to view comments" style="width:400px; border:thin solid black;">{{Album|21387}}
 +Blue: Fuel bowl vent lines
 + 
 +Green: IMS inner vent line (to Air Cleaner)
 +Red: IMS (Idle Mixture)</div>
 + 
 += Competition Flat-Tops =
 +Datsun Competition (Nissan Competition) sold a open-vented, non-IMS, twin carb system.
 + 
 +{{SeeEx|see=Main|Hitachi_Twin_Carb#Nissan_Competition|Competition Carburetors}}
 + 
 +{{Album!|7554}}
 + 
 +{{quote|text=NOTE: Competition versions of flat-tops do not have IMS. They are simply the old style carbs with the new tops.}}
 + 
 +{{quote|text=Competition flat-tops are Similar (or the same) as the Datsun 810 SSS twin carbs (200B or Euro 810 carbs).}}
-Blue & Green: IMS inner vent lines 
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=21387 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/21387.jpg] 
-<br>Red: IMS (Idle Mixture) 
[[Category:Hitachi Twin Carb]] [[Category:Hitachi Twin Carb]]
 +{{End}}

Current revision

A12T is the twin carb engine fitted to Datsun Sunny B210 and Nissan Cherry PE10. It uses the Hitachi Twin Carb system, dual 38mm Hitachi sidedrafts. These mainly differ from the A12GX Engine Hitachis in that they have a new idle speed and idle mixture system. They can be easily distinguished by their flat tops.


Contents

Overview

JDM 1973-1975 B210 GX models had either an A12S (single-carb) or optional A12T (twin-carb) engine. While the A12T is very similar to the A12 GX Engine, it used different flattop Hitachis and a slightly different intake manifold with a few more fittings. These are good carburetors that are not jetted leaner, but instead have a closed fuel bowl vent system. They are almost identical to the dome-top carburetors except for the IMS fittings on the top of the carbs. The total system (inlet manifold and hoses) is more complicated to allow idle mixture and speed adjustments and capture all the gasoline fumes into the air cleaner.

JDM Datsun Cherry (E10) models also used the A12T engine, including the famous Cherry X-1R vehicle.

1933.jpgAlbum 1933 8126.jpgAlbum 8126 8125.jpgAlbum 8125 8362.jpgAlbum 8362

1002.jpgAlbum 1002

10.jpg 11.jpg 12.jpg

Sources

The A12T twin carb engine was fitted to Datsun Sunny B210 and Nissan Cherry PE10.

1973-1977 Sunny B210 GX option engine (normal B210 GX was fitted with a single-carb engine)
2846.jpgAlbum 2846 2845.jpgAlbum 2845

Cherry X-1R
400px-1970_Nissan_Cherry_1200X-1_engine.jpgWIKI go to Wikipedia 29811.jpgAlbum 29811

Manifolds

Like the A12 GX engine, the A12T in the B210 used a dual-outlet divorced exhaust manifold.
However, the #Inlet Manifold was updated with two additional connection ports.

29812.jpgAlbum 29812 29813.jpgAlbum 29813 29814.jpgAlbum 29814

Inlet Manifold

29810.jpgAlbum 29810

A12GX vs A12T: Manifolds are nearly identical, but A12T has two extra fittings

A12GX
26609.jpgAlbum 26609

Center fitting (yellow arrow) is for IMS speed screw assembly.
24759.jpgAlbum 24759
Far left fitting (no arrow) is for power brake booster. NOTE: Early Nissan Cherry A12T may be missing this fitting

A12T/A12GX versus A14T Port Sizes
* A12T: 30x35 mm
* A14T: 28x34 mm
18268.jpgAlbum 18268

A14T identification
24760.jpgAlbum 24760

Idle Mixture System

Ummm... smells good, and works good too. JDM non-competition (stock) Hitachi sidedraft flat-top carburetors come with an advanced Idle Mixture System (IMS), for fine tuning of the idle mixture.

Thick hoses are for Idle Mixture System (IMS)
1132.jpgAlbum 1132

Idle Mixture System
23191.jpgAlbum 23191

IMS body with Mixture Screw
21385.jpgAlbum 21385

Adjustments

Idle mixture (IMS) is possible with the new flat-top Hitachi design. This is a better system than the older style GX carbs, but requires a new way of adjustment.

  1. First of all, check the ignition timing and set it correctly
  2. Next, check the float levels. Nothing will work correctly if this is off
  3. Check oil damper level, and top off with 10W-30 if needed
  4. Loosen balance adjusting screw completely
  5. Set idle speed to 750 rpm by turning idle speed screw
    • Clockwise: speed decreases
    • Anti-clockwise: speed increase
  6. Synchronize the twin carbs by turning Balance screw
  7. Turn Mixture screw back and forth until best lean idle is achieved
  8. Reset idle speed to 750 rpm
  9. Lean out Mixture until speed drops to 725 rpm
21386.jpgAlbum 21386

Green: Hoses to air cleaner (including the curved IMS hose) Blue: Fuel lines to fuel bowls

Red: Idle speed system (air bypass system), connects to IMS body vents

21387.jpgAlbum 21387

Blue: Fuel bowl vent lines

Green: IMS inner vent line (to Air Cleaner)

Red: IMS (Idle Mixture)

Competition Flat-Tops

Datsun Competition (Nissan Competition) sold a open-vented, non-IMS, twin carb system.

7554.jpg


NOTE: Competition versions of flat-tops do not have IMS. They are simply the old style carbs with the new tops.

Competition flat-tops are Similar (or the same) as the Datsun 810 SSS twin carbs (200B or Euro 810 carbs).

 

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