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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Turn Signals

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Cycles per Minute: 80 to 90 C/M Cycles per Minute: 80 to 90 C/M
-In the orginal B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit.+In the original B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit. Modern [[#Electronic Flasher]] or [[#Universal Flasher]] can replace either unit.
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<br>{{Album|24407}} {{Album|24406}} <br>{{Album|24407}} {{Album|24406}}
-Aftermarket+[[#Aftermarket]] has no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it under the dash
<br>{{Album|24409}} <br>{{Album|24409}}
=== Turn Signal Flasher === === Turn Signal Flasher ===
T/S Flasher T/S Flasher
- B5520-89993 UNIT-FLASHER 12V 50W $14 USD+ {{searchPart|B5520-89993}} UNIT-FLASHER 12V 50W $14 USD
NILES CF115 (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt]) NILES CF115 (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
- * superceded 25520-89901+ * superceded {{searchPart|25520-89901}}
used by used by
* Datsun B110 USA * Datsun B110 USA
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{{Album|24408}} {{Album|24408}}
-B210 USA spec is different: 25520-89976 or 25520-89966+B210 USA spec is different: {{searchPart|25520-89976}} or {{searchPart|25520-89966}}
-B310 USA spec is different: 25520-89983 (clip on, not bolt-on).+B310 USA spec is different: {{searchPart|25520-89983}} (clip on, not bolt-on).
=== Hazard Flasher === === Hazard Flasher ===
Hazard flasher Hazard flasher
- 25520-89997 UNIT HAZARD FLASHER $24 USD+ {{searchPart|25520-89997}} UNIT HAZARD FLASHER $24 USD
- * supercedes 25520-89990 (original B110 spec) + * supercedes {{searchPart|25520-89990}} (original B110 spec)
* superceded 25520-89996 (original B310 spec) * superceded 25520-89996 (original B310 spec)
NILES F215AF (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt]) NILES F215AF (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
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* Datsun B310 USA * Datsun B310 USA
- +{{Ref|Aftermarket}} Units may replace one or both part numbers.
-Aftermarket Units may replace one or both part numbers.+ {{search|562+flasher|type 562 flasher}} or use [[#Electronic Flasher]] or [[#Universal Flasher]]
NIEHOFF 562 (suitable for Hazards) is compatible with: NIEHOFF 562 (suitable for Hazards) is compatible with:
* 25520-89976 * 25520-89976
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== Universal Flasher == == Universal Flasher ==
-Flasher for either T/S or Hazards. My Sunny Truck is using this common USA unit.+Flasher for either T/S or Hazards. My Sunny Truck is using this common USA unit. They have no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie to the column support.
Aftermarket universal thermal flasher Aftermarket universal thermal flasher
 + {{search|552+flasher+536|type 552 or 536 flasher}}
BUSS FLASHER 552/536 12V [http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIT0/FLR536552BP/N0389.oap?ck=Search_N0389_LIT_-1_-1&mn=Littelfuse&mc=LIT&pt=N0389&ppt=C0335 $3.19 @ O'Reilly] BUSS FLASHER 552/536 12V [http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/LIT0/FLR536552BP/N0389.oap?ck=Search_N0389_LIT_-1_-1&mn=Littelfuse&mc=LIT&pt=N0389&ppt=C0335 $3.19 @ O'Reilly]
2-terminal 2-terminal
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== Electronic Flasher== == Electronic Flasher==
-An "electronic" flasher may be used to accomodate non-stock bulbs, but requires extra wiring. +An "electronic" flasher may be used to accommodate non-stock bulbs. They are load-independent so flash at a constant rate regardless of using LEDs, using extra bules (i.e. pulling a trailer) or less bulbs (i.e. a bulb is burned out). It has no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it to the support.
By contrast, the original thermal flasher types only work with a specific number and wattage of bulbs. By contrast, the original thermal flasher types only work with a specific number and wattage of bulbs.
 +
 +Some EFs require extra wiring but the {{search|Novita%20Technologies%20EL12%20flasher|EL12}} is a direct replacement for the stock unit
 +<br>{{ExtPhotoLink|https://ratsun.net/topic/84740-any-aftermarket-hazard-switches-that-would-work-with-a-71-datsun-510/#comment-1838460|https://ratsunstorage.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/monthly_2025_03|Novita_EL12.thumb.jpg.1a7b5476a83068d315ad7389a4638ce3.jpg}}
 +
 +NOTE: LED bulbs are polarity-dependent. If your LED bulbs don't work or don't flash, reverse the two wires on the Flasher unit.
== TS/Beam Switch Assembly == == TS/Beam Switch Assembly ==

Current revision

Turn signals (flashers, blinkers, indicators, winkers) -- all 1200s have them. The Hazards (4-way warning flashers) are part of the turn signal circuit, although not equipped in some countries. Optional was the Passing Lamp -- a turn signal switch with built-in passing button at the end of the stalk, which flashes the high beams.

See also: Side Lamps

Contents

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Also See

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Overview

These components comprise the T/S system: 

* Turn signal switch (in steering column)
* Hazard switch (on column cover)
* Light Switch (in dash)
* Wiring & Fuse
* Lamps (lens & socket & bulbs)
  Front Combination Lamps
  Cluster Gauge (dash indicator bulbs)
  Rear Combination Lamps

RHD & LHD use the same T/S switch assembly. Just rotate it 180 degrees.
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Switch Removal and Installation

  1. Remove Steering Wheel
  2. Remove Steering Column cover (clamshell)
    2136.jpgAlbum 2136 19648.jpgAlbum 19648
  3. Unplug wiring connectors down along steering column
    23136.jpgAlbum 23136
  4. Remove position screw
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  5. Loosen the two clamping screws
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  6. Pull straight off column
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Flasher Location

The flasher units (hazard and turn-signal) bolt to each side of the pedal box strut:
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The other flasher bolts to the other side of this strut.

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non-USA

The flasher can is bolted to the right side of the steering column brace.

NILES Hazards & Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
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USA

USA 1200s have two flashers.

NILES Hazard flasher unit bolts to right side of column brace
15957.jpgAlbum 15957

NILES Turn Signal flasher unit bolts to left side of column brace
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Troubleshooting

See Turn Signal Testing

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Part Numbers

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AUS Flasher 

AUS Datsun B10 25520-89981 (Audible) > 25520-89900
* NILES 12.8V CF101 23Wx2+5W+3.4W
AUS Datsun 510 25520-89985

AUS Datsun B210 25520-88991 (supercedes 25520-88959)
* NILES TF641

25520-88900
* Datsun B10 AUS
* Datsun 910 Bluebird AUS/EUR
* Nissan S110 Silvia JAP
* Datsun S110 Silvia/Gazelle EUR
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Japan Flasher

Japan-market 1200s used a single flasher unit to operate both the Turn Signals or the Hazards (depending on position of the Hazard switch). 

1200 including truck
25520-89974 UNIT-flasher, hazard & turn signal
* supercedes 25520-89962 

B210 1973-1975
25520-89974 UNIT-flasher, hazard & turn signal

Late B210 used seperate flashers for Turn Signal & Hazards. 

B210 1976-1977
25520-89995 UNIT ASSY-TURN SIGNAL FLASHER
25520-89997 UNIT ASSY-HAZARD FLASHER [SAME AS USA]

B10
25520-89000 > 25520-13200
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USA Flasher Units

T/S flasher unit and Hazards flasher unit look similar (both are two-prong flashers), but are different specification. The load varies: Hazard flasher activates all lights at once, while T/S flasher does one side at a time. 

Terminals
X: battery
L: lamp

Candlepower: 32 [32CP]

Cycles per Minute: 80 to 90 C/M

In the original B110/B210/B310 fitting, the T/S flasher was a large 40mm diameter NILES unit, while Hazard used the smaller 32mm NILES unit. Modern #Electronic Flasher or #Universal Flasher can replace either unit.

15957.jpgAlbum 15957

Newer style
19656.jpgAlbum 19656

Early Style
24407.jpgAlbum 24407 24406.jpgAlbum 24406

#Aftermarket has no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it under the dash
24409.jpgAlbum 24409

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Turn Signal Flasher 

T/S Flasher
B5520-89993ᴳ UNIT-FLASHER 12V 50W $14 USD
NILES CF115 (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
* superceded 25520-89901ᴳ
used by
* Datsun B110 USA
* Datsun 510
* Datsun 520/521
* Datsun Fairlady AUS

24408.jpgAlbum 24408

B210 USA spec is different: 25520-89976ᴳ or 25520-89966ᴳ

B310 USA spec is different: 25520-89983ᴳ (clip on, not bolt-on).

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Hazard Flasher 

Hazard flasher
25520-89997ᴳ UNIT HAZARD FLASHER $24 USD
* supercedes 25520-89990ᴳ (original B110 spec) 
* superceded 25520-89996 (original B310 spec)
NILES F215AF (23W x 2 + 3.4 w [49.4 watt])
NIEHOFF 562
used by
* Datsun B110 USA
* Datsun B210 USA
* Datsun B310 USA

Aftermarket Units may replace one or both part numbers. 

type 562 flasherᴳ or use #Electronic Flasher or #Universal Flasher
NIEHOFF 562 (suitable for Hazards) is compatible with:
* 25520-89976
* 25520-89978
* 25520-89983
* 25520-89996
* 25520-89997
* 25520-B8060
* 25520-E46000
* 38300-634-671
* 38300-671-671
* 38300-671-672
* 38300-692-671
* 38300-692-672
* 38350-634-003
* 38350-634-671
* 38350-671-003
* 38350-671-013
* 2113-66-470
* 6832-10-072
* MB031754
* MB031755
* MB031756
* 6832-10073
* 7861-22000
used by:
71-85 American Motors 
80-87 Aston Martin 
71-85 Chrysler 
71-85 Dodge 
71-85 Dodge Truck 
67-82 Ford (English) 
70-84 Honda 
61-82 Jaguar 
68-82 Lotus 
61-81 MG 
70-84 Mazda 
67-80 Mercury 
83-91 Mitsubishi 
71-85 Nissan-Datsun 
71-85 Plymouth 
71-85 Plymouth Truck
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Universal Flasher

Flasher for either T/S or Hazards. My Sunny Truck is using this common USA unit. They have no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie to the column support. 

Aftermarket universal thermal flasher
type 552 or 536 flasherᴳ
BUSS FLASHER 552/536 12V $3.19 @ O'Reilly
2-terminal
32CP MAX6
Taiwan
flashes 2-3 Turn Signal 32CP lamps 
flashes 2-6 Hazard lamps
clip on type [no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it under the dash]
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Electronic Flasher

An "electronic" flasher may be used to accommodate non-stock bulbs. They are load-independent so flash at a constant rate regardless of using LEDs, using extra bules (i.e. pulling a trailer) or less bulbs (i.e. a bulb is burned out). It has no bolt-on tab, so zip-tie it to the support.

By contrast, the original thermal flasher types only work with a specific number and wattage of bulbs.

Some EFs require extra wiring but the EL12ᴳ is a direct replacement for the stock unit
Novita_EL12.thumb.jpg.1a7b5476a83068d315ad7389a4638ce3.jpg☁

NOTE: LED bulbs are polarity-dependent. If your LED bulbs don't work or don't flash, reverse the two wires on the Flasher unit.

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TS/Beam Switch Assembly

  • Standard type
  • Passing lamp type
Main: Turn signal switch

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Hazard & Parking Light Switch

4-way hazard flashing lights

Main: Hazards

2136.jpg

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Light Switch

The main Lighting Switch (headlight switch) feeds power to the #TS/Beam Switch Assembly (lever on the steering column).

  • 25160-H1101 SWITCH COMP-lighting B110 (also B120)
  • 25160-H1110 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog lamp switch (op.)
  • 25160-H2510 SWITCH COMP-lighting, w/o fog (op.)
  • 25160-H2511 SWITCH COMP-lighting, with fog (op.)
  • 25165-H1000 KNOB ASSY-lighting
  • 25165-E7500 KNOB ASSY-lighting, with illumination, w/o fog (op.)
  • 25170-H2510 LAMP ASSY-illumination (op.)
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Custom

Also here's a custom update: Add a Bluebird multi-switch (which looks like the B310 Steering Column switch). Bolts to the 1200 column:

  • T/S switch
  • Light switch
  • Wiper switch

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