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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Transmission Gear Control

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I got tired of the shifter in my 1200 flopping around, so I changed the bushings --it took about 5 minutes. I don't know what happened to the old bushings, I didn't see any in there at all. It was nice and tight last year, but one day it just started flopping. I reckon the old ones shattered into a million pieces. Anyways, for 5 minutes and 5 dollars, it sure works better now. I got tired of the shifter in my 1200 flopping around, so I changed the bushings --it took about 5 minutes. I don't know what happened to the old bushings, I didn't see any in there at all. It was nice and tight last year, but one day it just started flopping. I reckon the old ones shattered into a million pieces. Anyways, for 5 minutes and 5 dollars, it sure works better now.
-About $10 USD from Nissan.+About $10 USD from Nissan | with new rubber boots
-<br>{{Album|23575}} +<br>{{Album|23575}} {{Album|19139}}
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-Bushings with new rubbers+
-<br>{{Album|19139}}+
"Head" bush at the end, regular bushes on the side of the hole "Head" bush at the end, regular bushes on the side of the hole
-<br>{{Album|8632}}+<br>{{Album|8632}} {{Album|8631}}
 + 
 +If you have carpeted tunnel, pull it out, to prevent grease from getting on it.
 + 
 +If you have a console, remove it. Two Phillips screws on each side, 4 total
 +<br>{{Album|23576}}
 + 
 +Floor boot -- pull the boot up
 +<br>{{Album|23577}}
 + 
 +Transmission boot -- pull the small boot up
 +<br>{{Album|23578}}
 + 
 +Using a small screwdriver, snap the E-clip off the pin. Some transmissions have a 10mm nut instead.
 +<br>{{Album|23579}}
 + 
 +Disintegrated Shifter Bushings -- looks like sludge, but is actually the remains of the plastic bushings, mixed with gear lube.
 +<br>{{Album|23580}}
-{{Album|8631}} {{Album|8632}} {{Album|23579}} {{Album|23580}}+Wipe off the shifter and push the new bushings into place;
 +<br>{{Album|23581}}
== Metal Bushes == == Metal Bushes ==

Revision as of 01:20, 19 December 2018

The 3-speed used a column shifter attached to the steering column. 4-speeds and 5-speeds use floor shift mechanism that is integral to the transmission itself.

Also see: Automatic Shifter

Contents

Overview

By POST government decree the shift pattern must be displayed in view of driver. This is normally printed on the shifter knob.

18191.jpgAlbum 18191

You can also print it out and tape it to the dash "in view of the driver".
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Shift Knobs

クシフト ノブ

8mm x 1.25 threads

If you want just the pattern on top, you can buy those from Autobarn and other similar stores as a badge with sticky back.

BProjects Wood shift knob with various patterns
22294.jpgAlbum 22294

B110

Also see Transmission Control Part Numbers
STD: Column shift
DX: Black plastic
GL: Wood
GX: Leather-like
GX-5: Wood with dogleg pattern

32865-H1000 <> 32865-27700 <> 32865-V2400
The stock Datsun 1200 4-speed knob is black.
50.JPGAlbum 50 16869.jpgAlbum 16869

3-speed column-mounted shifter:
2760.jpgAlbum 2760

32865-H2001 KNOB-control lever (wood) GL
similar: 32865-H2000, C2865-Hxxxx, 32865-H9300, 32865-78601, C2865-25800
C2865-H.jpg

32865-H2300 KNOB-control lever GX [Leather-like]
similar to this
32865-V_1.jpg

32865-H7200 GX-5 Shift Knob
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Non-stock leatherlike (GL-type) knob for 5-speed
32865-Vxxxx, 32865-N5102, 32865-N5112
32865-V.jpg

Datsun 1200 Options
2209.jpgAlbum 2209

PB110
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Datsun 1000

32865-27700 > 32865-24901 <> 32856-24900
32865-25800 wood OPTION
32865-78602 wood GL

normal black
400px-Datsun-SunnyB10interior.JPGWIKI click for photo

GL
3623.jpgAlbum 3623

OPTION
CopyofSunnyKB10optionknob01.jpg CopyofSonnyKB10optionknob02.jpg 6580.jpgAlbum 6580

22124.jpgAlbum 22124 22094.jpgAlbum 22094

B210

4-SPEED
32865-H1000 Van PLASTIC
32865-H5100 GL WOODLIKE 32865-H5110
32865-78601 OPTION WOOD
32865-H5200 OPTION LEATHERLIKE 32865-H5210
5-SPEED
32865-N5010 GL.F5 WOODLIKE 7702-
32865-N5102 GX.F5 GL.OPTION LEATHERLIKE 32865-N5112 
32865-N5103 OPTION WOOD
HB210
9082.jpgAlbum 9082

B310

21827.jpgAlbum 21827

KNOB-CONTROL LEVER
* Black
* Brown
* Leatherlike Black
* Leatherlike Brown
* Woodlike 4-speed 32865-W2000
* Woodlike 5-speed 32865-W2100

32865-H8800 B310 PLASTIC 4F BLACK 7812-8010
32865-H8800-1.jpg 32865-H8800.jpg

32865-H8802 B310 PLASTIC 4F BROWN
32865-brown.jpg

32865-H8901 dogleg
26902.jpgAlbum 26902 26903.jpgAlbum 26903

8267.jpgAlbum click to view 10121.jpgAlbum click to view 22466.jpgAlbum click to view 22467.jpgAlbum click to view

Custom

Classic 8-ball
10712.jpgAlbum 10712

Custom Knob
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Shifter Bushes

The bushings become dry rotted,broken. New ones restore your shifter for tight, precise shifting again.

I got tired of the shifter in my 1200 flopping around, so I changed the bushings --it took about 5 minutes. I don't know what happened to the old bushings, I didn't see any in there at all. It was nice and tight last year, but one day it just started flopping. I reckon the old ones shattered into a million pieces. Anyways, for 5 minutes and 5 dollars, it sure works better now.

About $10 USD from Nissan | with new rubber boots
23575.jpgAlbum 23575 19139.jpgAlbum 19139

"Head" bush at the end, regular bushes on the side of the hole
8632.jpgAlbum 8632 8631.jpgAlbum 8631

If you have carpeted tunnel, pull it out, to prevent grease from getting on it.

If you have a console, remove it. Two Phillips screws on each side, 4 total
23576.jpgAlbum 23576

Floor boot -- pull the boot up
23577.jpgAlbum 23577

Transmission boot -- pull the small boot up
23578.jpgAlbum 23578

Using a small screwdriver, snap the E-clip off the pin. Some transmissions have a 10mm nut instead.
23579.jpgAlbum 23579

Disintegrated Shifter Bushings -- looks like sludge, but is actually the remains of the plastic bushings, mixed with gear lube.
23580.jpgAlbum 23580

Wipe off the shifter and push the new bushings into place;
23581.jpgAlbum 23581

Metal Bushes

Stock type plastic bushes VS Racing aluminum bushings for better control (but they transmit vibration)
6721.jpgAlbum 6721

Brash bushes
10037.jpgAlbum 10037 10036.jpgAlbum 10036

Short-throw Shifter

A short-throw shifter is longer below the fulcrum, so you only need the move the shifter a little to move the gears a lot.

Of course if the fulcrum is higher up on the shifter, you need to move the fulcrum mount point on the transmission up higher to match.

Discussion: How to make a short shifter

Simple Method

Lengthen the shifter bottom section: cut just below the fulcrum pin in the round part. Then just weld in a piece of 3-4mm steam pipe 1 - 1.5 inches long then weld the fulcrum back on top. On the stick cut the bottom off and exten it the same amount and then weld the ball back on.

Or instead of modifying the 56/60-series shifter, use an L-series shifter (which has a higher fulcrum).

To modify the transmission, bolt extension plate on the shifter brackets:
21815.jpgAlbum 21815 21816.jpgAlbum 21816 21814.jpgAlbum 21814

Pro Bracket

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Angelo made the adapter and stick to move the fulcrum point up about 1.25"/32mm. The stock shifter moved about 6-7" from 1st to 2nd, now it moves only 3". Side to side movement is still the same as before. It has taken me a few days to get used to. The throw is so short, it's difficult to go from second to third and from fourth to fifth. Tap the original holes for the fulcrum pin with an M10x1.5 and used short flathead/countersunk M10 screws to mount it.

Another version:
13473.jpgAlbum 13473

Maddat

Product No SSRA-S Short Throw Shifter (A-Series Gearbox). Reduce the distance between gear changes and do away with your old floppy shifter. Bolt-on application includes new chromed shifter, adapter, bolts and new bushes. Comes with instructions.

13473.jpgAlbum 13473

63/71 Shifter

63-series and 71 series already have a higher fulcrum point. Some later 71-series are adjustable for low- or high- fulcrum.

1984 adjustable shifter re-bent similar to 1200 shifter:
21825.jpgAlbum 21825

Comparo

Pictures thanks to DatzenMike.

Adjustable, just reverse the plastic insert to fit different transmissions:
doglegshiftoptions002Large.jpg doglegshiftoptions003Large.jpg

There is a difference in pin heights on the FS5W71B transmissions.
4-speed & 5-speed up to 1980
5speedfor710goon010Large.jpg


4-speed & 5-speed AFTER 1980
5speedfor710goon012Large.jpg

Some FS5W71B shifters from 720/S110 in multiple lengths
shifters003Large.jpg 720shifter004Large.jpg
The two plastic bushings and the spring inside can be swapped upside down to move the pin hole higher up to move the fulcrum point up.

Part Numbers

Shifter Bushings

Nissan 32855-H1010 - manual transmission. The original part number was 32855-24900. (2 required).
8631.jpgAlbum 8631

These bushings fit:
* 1967-1970 B10
* 1971-1973 B110
* 1974-1978 B210
* 1969-1973 510
* 1977-1980 810
* 1973-1979 620
* 1980-1985 720
* 1977-1983 200SX
* 1969-1973 Patrol
Shifter End Bush
* Nissan 32861-24900 BUSH-CONTROL LEVER HEAD
* rarely needs replacing

Boots

19139.jpgAlbum 19139

Also see: Console

Large Boot

Also see: Console

Interior shift boot (large boot)
6574.jpgAlbum 6574 23579.jpgAlbum 23579

74963-20900 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER $11 USD
change_lever_dust_boot.jpg
108mm overall diameter
13mm hole
74963-H5000 $30 USD
74963_H5000.jpg
110mm diameter overall
15mm: lever hole diameter
85mm: floor opening diameter
Compare with 510/620 boot, which is for a larger opening
510_620_shift_boot.jpg
137mm diameter overall
15mm: lever hole diameter
99mm: floor opening diameter
 

Small Boot

At transmission (small boot)
22101.jpgAlbum 22101 22102.jpgAlbum 22102

32862-G1200 BOOT RUBBER C/L $4 USD
* replaces:
** JAPAN 32865-H1000
** USA To 0373: 32862-24900 BOOT-RUBBER CONTROL LEVER
** USA From 0473: 32865-H1000 BOOT-LEVER CONTROL LEVER

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Interchange

These all interchange. Bends/length differ.

  • 56-series shifter
  • 60-series shifter (both 4 & 5-speeds)

The 63-series 5-speed shifter fits deeper into the transmission, so does not interchange. CONVERSELY, the 60-series shifter does not work well with the 63-series 5-speed, as the length of the shifter from the crossbolt to the plastic pivot point at the end of the shifter is about 10mm shorter. But 60-into-63 might work in a pinch.

The B310 floor boot is different:
B310_floor_shifter_boot.jpg

32862-H7300 BOOT-RUBBER CONTROL 4-speed,5-speed, 56,60-series $4.87 USD
75950-H8510 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER [Floor hole] COUPE OP.SEDAN $28.55 USD
75951-H9100 HOLDER-BOOT SEDAN.DX $6.30 USD
* 75950-H9100 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER SEDAN.DX (BROWN) $63.52 USD
* 75950-H9101 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER SEDAN.DX (BLUE) -0779 $57.12 USD
* 75950-H9103 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER SEDAN.DX (BLUE) 0879- $63.52 USD
* 75950-H9102 BOOT-CONTROL LEVER SEDAN.DX (BLACK) $63.83 USD
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