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Category: Wheel And Tire

Datsun 1200 uses a common wheel bolt-pattern: 4 bolt holes on 4-1/2 inch circle (aka 4-on-4.5). Nissan engineers specified this in inches. In metric this is equivalent to a 4 x 114.3 PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter). Stock Datsun 1200 wheels are 12 inch diameter, 4J (4 inches wide). All models, even GX models and 1994 Sunny Truck models, used 12" wheels. Only the Datsun 1200 SSS used a special wheel, though still 12" diameter. Wheels up to 18x7 will fit under the stock bodywork.

Contents

Stock Wheels

Stock Datsun 1200 wheels are 12Jx4. This includes GX models.

  • 12" diameter
  • 4-inch wide
  • bolt-pattern: 4 on 4-1/2 inch circle (4 x 114.3 PCD)
Comparison of B110, B210, B310 wheels
wheelsB10B1101977 US B210 A141980 NA B310
size3-1/2 J-124 J-124-1/2 J-134-1/2 J-13
5 J-13 (aluminum)
Canada w/A12A: 4J-12
offset?30 mm30mm offset30mm
25 mm (aluminum)
tire size?-126.00-12
155SR-12
155SR-136.00-12
155SR13
175/70SR13
balance10gr or less (0.35 oz)11gr or less10gr or less
lugnut torque  8-9kg-m (58-65 ft-lb)8-9kg-m8-10

NOTE: North American B210 1976-1978 large-brake wheels are 13" but have 4mm extra diameter inside, possibly for clearance of the large brakes. These wheels are same as Datsun 610 and can be identified by six thin slots on the face.

Datsun Option Wheels

Datsun Sunny B210 & B310 factory OPTION B & OPTION C wheels: 13" x 5"
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  • 40300-N5825 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, B TYPE (5JX13)
  • 40300-W6625 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, C TYPE (5JX13)
  • Also used on 200SX (S10 silvia) 1977-1979

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B310 Wheels

Datsun Sunny B310 styled steel wheel: 13" x 4.5"
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  • 40300-W8300 WHEEL ASSY-ROAD(4 1/2-JX13) (STYLED) 0879-

NOTE: These do not fit the B110 front hubs due to the shape of the wheel, particularly the deep well hits the B110 brake caliper.

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510

510 came with 4x13 wheels (4.5x13 option?), and are often used on 1200s. Offset is +30(?).


Lug Nuts

M12x1.25 thread

  • B110: Nuts are 19mm hex head (~3/4 inch)
  • B210: 13/16" lug nuts

See main article Wheel Studs

Torque

From the 1978 B120 factory service manual (English RHD/LHD):

  • 8.0-9.0 kg/m (58-65 ft-lb)

Wheel Balance

From the 1978 B120 factory service manual (English RHD/LHD):

  • Maximum allowable unbalance at rim flange: 10 gr (0.35 oz)
  • Tire balancing weight: 10-70 gr (0.35-2.47 oz), spacing 10 gr (0.35 oz)

Wheel Offset

The stock wheel is 30 mm positive offset (mounting face is 30mm outboard of the wheel's center line). This offset perfectly centers the tire inside the wheel well.

Because the stock wheel is 4" wide, it can fit the stock 155-width tire or a wider 165-width tire. Any wider tire, such as 175-width, requires a 5" wide wheel.

STOCK = 30 mm offset
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For more information see main article: Offset

* Choosing Wheel Offset for wide tires
* Selecting compatible FWD Wheels
* Measuring Offset
* Offset size that work with stock bodywork

Scrub Radius

Too much scrub makes the car a bit unstable under braking and therefore won't generate quite as much cornering grip. This applies mostly to the front suspension (due to the kingpin inclination angle) and not so much to the rear (where camber is nominally zero due to the live-axle design).

This means spacing your wheels outward (away from the strut) is generally bad, increasing your scrub radius. Using negative offset wheels, wheel spacers, or longer LCA or longer ball joints will exacerbate this problem.

McPherson struts have a scrub radius problem in general. However, since Porsche 911 and most BMWs use McPherson strut, it is not necessarily a serious handling problem which cannot be overcome. Newer modifed-strut designs (such as 2011 GM HiPer Strut and 2011 Ford RevoKnuckle designs) reduce the scrub radius. For your old car, keep the scrub radius to the minimum.


scrub radius. its the distance from the centre of the tyre contact patch to where SAI intersects the ground.

'+' scrub radius where the centre of tyre contact patch is outside SAI, '-' where its inside the SAI.

SAI = Steering Axis Inclination. On a strut front end, its simply an imaginary line drawn throught the centre of the strut. Or, it you have bent struts, it's a line drawn through the lower pivot (balljoint) and the top 'pivot' (where the shock insert bolts to the strut top)

Strut front ends apparently don't like lots of + scrub.

Obviously with a given wheel offset, the only way to alter scrub is to alter the SAI. Movint the top of the strut inwards will do that, but also move the centre of tyre contact patch outwards to a lesser extent, so you can't really alter it all that much.

anyway, all i really know is my +3 offset (103mm backspace) 7" Hotwires work much better than the -10 (90mm backspace) offset 7" superlites I had. Would other less offset wheels work better? I dunno...

reference: LB18_110 on 1200 coupe race car


Largest Sizes to Fit 1200

17-inch diameter wheels easily fit the 1200. The key is: width of the tyre and overall height of the tyre. Even 18" wheels are being used on 1200s with stock bodywork, if a skinny low-profile tire is used.

The wheel mainly positions the tire within the wheelwell. The tire is the part that will rub on the fender or rub on the spring. So the tire size is more important than the wheel size.

To make maximum use of the wheelwell width:

  • Front: 3.25" is the maximum backspace (which is used by the stock 4" wheel). So if going wider, the offest must be reduced from +30.
  • Rear: +30 offset works best with Datsun 1200.

You can fit even wider tires by shifting them out of the fender opening. A zero offset wheel will do this with anything larger than 165-wide tires. The tires will rub on the bodywork unless they are very low profile (small diameter, such as 205/50R13). But usually Rolling the Guard and/or overfender flares are utilized.

16"
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  • 4": B110 12" stockers are 4" wide with +30 offset
  • 4.5": B310 13" +30 stockers won't fit the front of the 1200. They hit the brake calipers, which may be related to the shape of the wheel.
  • 5.5": Most with appropriate offset will fit a Datsun 1200. 15mm offset wheels fit nicely under the front guards, but look anemic on the rear.
  • 6-inch wide wheels: most will not fit, but a zero offset will.
  • 6.5": the biggest 15s you can put on are +24 15x6.5 even then they stick out a couple of mm past the fenders
  • 6.5" 16s with a 40mm offset (silvia wheels or R32 skyline stock rims fit this). These wheels are the limit, I have 195/45 R16 on it and they sit within the guard and don't rub anything....but the front of the guard has been altered.
  • 7" Reportedly 13x7 +0 fits perfectly
  • 7" wide wheels with offset of +10 require front guards modification (they will rub on the fenders). At full lock -- depending on the tires -- the fronts will probably scrub inside the guards
  • 7" 14s with 0 offset sit flush with the rear and poke a little on the front. More positive offset bring them inside, but then you risk hitting the struts
  • 7": 15s +10 offset on fronts and +2 offset on rears. Tires rub a little at full lock. With pumped guards with possibly 15x7 -2 offset would work better.
  • 7": I have 14x7 on my 1200. With zero offset. It is a tight fit with stretched tires. Mine have 175/60R14 tires, so obviously they are stretched over the 7 inch wide rim.
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See: Tire Sizes for a discussion of the largest tires that will fit and which wheels are needed for those tires.

IMPORTANT
Height has little to do with your wheel, but 
more to do with the tire. See Tires
a 195-width tire will fit if 
small enough diameter (e.g. 195-50R15)
You may need to roll the fender.

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Negative Offset shifts the wheel outwards

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Rear

Rear wheel mounting flanges in Datsun 1200 reportedly can vary by 10mm side to side (see offset diff housing alignment problem?).

  • 7": 13x7 with 0 offset and they fill the gaurds perfectly. The tire will be under the guard lip, and will rub if the 1200 is lowered unless the tires are very small diameter.
  • 8.5": 13" -15 with 175/60R13

Ute Rear

There is more room under the rear of the Datsun 1200 pickup model, compared to the sedans, wagons and coupes. However, the leaf springs are the same relative location, so practical limits are the same as coupe, sedan and wagon.

Wheel Adapters

Wheel adapters can be used. These bolt to the hub, then you can fit other wheels. For example, fitting 5-bolt wheels to the stock 4-bolt hubs.

Wheel Spacers

If the offset of your wheels is too positive, you can use spacers to space them out to the proper place. You may need to fit longer wheel studs.

If the offset is too negative, they will fit the fenders (guards) and there is nothing you can do except cut out the bodywork, perhaps fitting large flares.

Modifying Axles to fit other wheel patterns

Modifying Axles to fit other wheel patterns can be done as well. For example, you might have the axles drilled to fit five bolts, enabling you to use 5-bolt wheels.

10064.jpg re-drilled axle flange

Suppliers

See Rims

Aftermarket Wheels

See Rims

Compatible Wheels

Any wheel that is 4-bolt on 4.5 inch circle (114.3 mm PCD) and 71mm center hole fits will bolt onto the Datsun 1200, depending on the offset. Fitment also includes the tire sizes, as taller tires may hit the bodywork.

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NOTE: The offset on most front-wheel drive wheels is too much.

Wheels that fit can be sourced from these vehicles:

  • Rear-wheel drive Toyota
  • 1960s Ford Falcon and Mustang 4-lug (6-cylinder models)
  • Chevrolet Corvair (5 x 13)
    • pefect for the rear
    • may need a 1/4 inch spacer on fronts to clear the brake caliper
  • Rear-wheel drive Datsun & Nissan models.
  • Datsun B310 wheels fit the rear, but do not fit the front of Datsun 1200
  • Datsun 240Z wheels -- 14"
  • Uni-lug alloy wheels
  • Rear-wheel-drive Mitsubishi
  • Skyline R31 spare steel wheels (14")

Nearly any rwd 4-lug on 4.5 inch bolt centers fit. These are equivalent to "114.3 PCD" in metric conversion terms.

What WONT work:

  • early Honda
  • Isuzu/Holden Gemini
  • Ford Escort/Cortina
  • early Mazda
  • Subaru
  • some SAAB
  • Ford Escort/Pinto/Mustang II/Mustang Fox

S13 Rims

15" x 6" +40, 4 Lug, 4.5" Bolt Pattern, 10-hole
USA
* Base: 195/60R15
* SE: 205/60R15
10-hole Spare
15" x 4", 4 Lug, 4.5" Bolt Pattern

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FWD Rims

FWD rims are typically a high offset (+35 or more), and may require a spacer if used on a 1200.

  • Acura Legend 1986-1990 (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Acura Vigor 1991-1994
  • Acura TC 1992-1995
  • Acura TL 2.5 1995- (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Acura CL 2.2/3.0 1995- (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Chevrolet Sprint 1988-1989 (12x4, 10mm studs, 59.6 center)
  • Ford Festiva 1987-1993 (12x4)
  • Ford Laser (KA to KH)
  • Geo Metro 1989-1997 (12x4, 10mm studs, 59.6 center)
  • Honda Accord 1990- (14x6, 15x6, 64.1 center)
  • Hyundai Excel
  • Kia 2001- (67.1 center)
  • SAAB 99 1968-1980 (5.5 inch wide, needs spacer)
  • SAAB 900, 900 Turbo 1979-1987 (needs spacer)
  • Suzuki 1989- including Swift, Aerio, Verona, Reno, Forenza
  • Volvo 40-series 1998- including 15x6 (centers need boring out to 70mm)

Saab Wheels

The offset is a little too positive - have to run a small spacer to clear the front strut.

5.5 inch wide Saab wheels with 175/55 & 185/55 tyres.
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Unknown Saab rims
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  • SAAB 99 1968-1980 (5.5 inch wide, needs spacer)
  • 1979-1983 SAAB 900
  • 1984-1987 SAAB 900, 900 Turbo (6" wide, needs spacer) 71.5 centers

This tyre and Saab wheel combo needs no spacer
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Skyline R31 spare steel wheels

Pursuit/chaser" style wheel may be used on Datsun 1200.

See main article: Pursuits

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TRX Wheels

Alloy wheels from Datsun 910 "Bluebird Series II" Australia TRX package work nicely on a Datsun 1200.

See main article: TRX Wheels

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Stanza SSS

Australian-assembled 1981-1983 Stanza SSS (PA10MX) has 13" alloy rims.

SSS wheels reportedly not fit 1200 without spacers.

1200 with SSS wheels

Stanza SSS

sss

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C22

USA C22
40300-V6104 5.5-JJX14 +40 <> 40300-V6120
40300-V8000 SPARE <> 40300-V8077 [8-hole steel]
40300-17C25 AL [turbine]

910

USA 910
40300-N8810
40300-N8870 <1>  40300-N8804
40300-W1000
40300-W1004 <5>  40300-W1014
40300-W1070 <5>  40300-W1004
40300-W2426
th_40300-W2426.jpg th_40300-W2426-1.gif
40300-W2428

Pulsar

Pulsar Turbo
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F31

Nissan F31 was badged "Nissan Leopard" or "Infiniti M30".

buy at rtw wheels
buy at wheel collision
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1990-1992 Infiniti M30
slanted 8 slot
15 x 6.5 +25
4 on 4-1/2 bolt circle
Pilot hole diameter 66 mm
23 lbs
left & right wheels
F31 Japan
8602-8808
 14x5.5+30 7-slot styled steel 
   40300-58L05 8602-8702 VG20 [F31,C32]
   40300-58L07 8702-8808 VG20 [F31,C32]
 15x6+30 10-slot styled steel
   40300-59S00 8602-8702 V20T.XS [F31,C32,R31]
   40300-59S07 8702-8808 V20T.XS GOLD [F31,C32,R31]
               8808-9805 VG20E *(VG20DT+VG30#) 
   40300-59S08 8905- VG20E *(VG20DT+VG30#) CHROME [F31]
8602-8808 spare steel 4x15 4-slot
  VG20 40300-03E00 8602-8808 <> 40300-28E15 <7> 40300-16E15
  VG30.ULTIMA 40300-59S15 8602-8808
  ALL 40300-59S15 8808-
8602-8603- alloy 8-slant/spoke 6.5x15
  40300-F6226 RH 8808- <> 40300-F6228 GOLD VG20DT+VG30# *VG20E
  40300-F6626 RH 8808- <> 40300-F6628 SILVER VG20DT+VG30# *VG20E
  40300-F6627 LH <> 40300-F6225
  40300-F6526 8602-8808 <> 40300-F6528 VG20T.XS2+VG30D.ULTIMA *(*VG20E.XJ#+*VG20T.XS)
  40300-F6527 LH

Spare Tire

15x4T+40
40300-28E15 キイロ 4ケシ 60ネン キネンシヤ <> 40300-03E00 <7> 40300-16E15
* C23 Vanette
* M10/M11
* S12/S13/RS13 Silvia
* W10
* T12/T12Y
* A31
* F31
* R31
* C32/C33
* P10/P10E
* R32
* U11/U12/U13
40300-16E15 15x4T BLACK steel クロ <7> 40300-28E15
* B15
* C23
* K30S
* P11/P11E
* R33
* RS13/S14
* U14
* W10/WP11
* C34
* U13

S110

USA  S110
40300-N8810 4TX16 SPARE
40300-N8900 5JX14 0179-0783
40300-N8910 5JX14 0781-1081
40300-N8427 5.5JJX14 AL [16-spoke]
40300-N8825 5.5JJX14 AL <4> 40300-11S25 [16-spoke 5.5x14 +25]
40300-S6027 5.5JJX14 AL <4> 40300-N8427 [32-spoke 5.5JJ14 25]
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EXA Rims

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Similar
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Cheviot 13x5.5
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S13

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Toyoda

Corolla
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R30 Rims

15 X 6 Skyline R30 wheels

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20-spoke 15x6
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Sigma Rims

Unknown what mods are need to fit Mitsubishi Sigma wheels.

Sigma Turbo rims 15 inch 4x114.3
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Sigma Turbo

14X6JJ GK/N SE sigma rims

sigma mags 14x5.5 195x65x14

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