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Weber 32/36
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Might be a stupid question, but I was wondering if you guys who put the 32/36 on your cars were happy with the performance, and did you notice a performance increase? I can't afford webers right now, and su's are not obtainable. Just looking for little cheap horsepower boost. Thanks.

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I felt the car's faster and the fuel consumption is actually the same as the stock carby.

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MY take on it. The primary throat is too large, this leads to low air speed which inturn causes poor throttle response. A 32/36 is a good improvement for the topend but you will lose some bottom end drivability. This is not usually a problem, but could be in a "drive" car. A lot of people use aftermarket exposed aircleaners that make a lot more noise. This coupled with a peakier engine lends people to belive that they are moving a lot quicker then they really are. Don't mistake a loss in bottom end for an increase in topend.

If you could decrease the primary size I think it would be perfect. Other than that it is a good compromise.

You really need to get a carb setup properly for it to work well. Accelerator pump and power valve are often overlooked but can change the "manners" substantially.


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I found with mine that top end increased noticibly,great at high revs.
Low speed city driving is a bit rough and can sometimes be "spluttery".I have tried many jet sizes but suspect as Cable_Tie suggested I may have to look at the power valve or Accelerator pump....




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Cable Tie is right on the money. The pro's of putting on the Weber far outweigh the con's of being a bit spluttery on minimal idle, but as he said, accelerator pump adjustment is required. If it is set up properly, it is definitely worth it

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Is it worth it? Yes, but ... depends on what you want. I went back to the stock carb. Fuel economy is better, and driveability is better than with the Weber.

Yes, the engine revs a lot better with the Weber, and bottom end wasn't bad (just a tiny flat spot). But it doesn't make a 'slow' A14 into a 'fast' A14. More like if anything, you go from 0-100km in 12 seconds down to 11, whatever it's still slower than your average minivan ...

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MY take on it. The primary throat is too large, this leads to low air speed witch inturn come with poor throttle response. A 32/36 is a good improvement for the topend but you will lose some bottom end drivability. This is not usually a problem, but could be in a "drive" car. A lot of people use aftermarket exposed aircleaners that make a lot more noise. This coupled with a peakier engine lends people to belive that they are moving a lot quicker then they really are. Don't mistake a loss in bottom end for an increase in topend.

If you could decrease the primary size I think it would be perfect. Other than that it is a good compromise.

You really need to get a carb setup properly for it to work well. Accelerator pump and power valve are often overlooked but can change the "manners" substantially.



true about the air speeds and primaries, but as with any carby change you should modify your driving style to suit.

i mean, obviously you can't drive a cammed and twin weber fed A14 the same as a standard A14 - 'cruising' rpm now has to change from say 2500rpm to more like 3500rpm to stop it spluttering and kicking like a kangaroo.

it should be the same with a 32/36. you've taken a weber for a 2.0L engine and put it on an A12/14/15 it's going to be over-choked and over-fuelled in the lower rpm range.

a funny thing is, is that when your revs increase so does the efficiency of an overcarbed engine and the engine can now consume the fuel. if tuned correctly, the fuel consumption will only be marginally higher - even though the comparative rpm has increased - because the engine is running more efficiently and the rpm is closer to where peak torque occurs (say 4000rpm for example) and from memory i think where torque and power are the same is 5250rpm on any engine...pls correct me if i'm wrong there anyone - that was a misson remembering that!

so you can see. even though the engine TECHNICALLY should use a lot more fuel, it probably wont use a lot more at all because the engine is operating more efficiently.

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if you guys jet them right they will be fine at low speed, i have just put a 38 webber on my A-14 and jetted it right and i have torque like a tractor
i can drive it at any speed and have never had it splatter and fart at low rpm. but now on accelaration and top end the car pulls strong with a slight penaltiy in fuel.

thats my 5cents

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I had aproblem with mine when I flattened it from idle and I got a new pump jet called a DEGAS jet and it fixed the problem straight away. Have a look down the throat as you open the throttle the standard pump jet shoots fuel only down the primary throat, The DEGAS jet shoots fuel down both throats at the same time.
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If your goal is to eventually have twin side drafts then I wouldn't waste time and money with the 32/36. There isn't enough gain with the single Weber down draft over a standard Hitachi carb in good working condition. Skip from the Hitachi to twin Weber/Dellorto 40's when you can - you'll smile every time you drive the car.

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