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=== Fumiya Brand === | === Fumiya Brand === | ||
Silicone hoses | Silicone hoses | ||
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== Thermostat == | == Thermostat == |
Revision as of 07:09, 20 April 2010
Datsun 1200 uses a small radiator, perfectly adequate for 69HP when in good condition. Using a small radiator is good for light weight and efficiency.
Also see:
* Water pump
* Coolant/Antifreeze Specifications
Contents |
Overview
GX Radiator 21400-H2300 (3-core)
Block detail including Welch Plugs and block Drain Plug
Temperature
It is not unusual with any 10-year old stock radiator for the temperature to rise during summer. If you have this, don't panic. The engine can run all day close to the "H" mark. Just don't let it go over that.
If this worries you, fit a slightly larger radiator, like the B210 radiator.
Use the stocko fan. Electric fans are notorious for failing to cool the radiator in stop/go traffic.
What is the correct temperature the engine should run at? Primarily, this depends on the thermostat. You can get different temp thermostats, and the coolant should stay steady at that temperature:
- 160 degree
- 180 degree
- 212 degree
160-degree is good for drag racing, or for use with low octane fuel. 180 is recommended for all street cars, it will keep the oil at optimum temperature (oil runs about 20 degrees hotter than the coolant). 212 degree is only run on emission-control cars along with a 14 lb. radiator cap to prevent boiling.
See main article: Thermostat
After the thermostat, the radiator is the next factor. If your temp. stays steady except on the hottest summer days it seems you need a replacement radiator, either a new or rebuilt stock unit, or a larger used unit (from a B210 or B310).
Pressure Cap
Use a 4.7 lb cap as per original specification. The high-pressure 14.7 lb (1 bar) caps are solely for 100-degree (212F) thermostats. A lower pressure will help prevent leaks in the radiator, heater core and hose connections.
Trouble Diagnoses
Don't bother to replace the radiator before you test it! Make sure it's bad first.
Engine Runs Too Hot - boils over
- Your thermostat may be bad, stuck partly closed and not allowing the water to flow. A simple test is to remove it. If then it keeps cool you know that's the problem.
- Radiator blocked. Do this simple test of the radiator flow:
- take off the lower hose of the radiator. Block it with your hand, and fill the radiator with plain water. Take your hand off and the water should gush out in as big a stream as the lower opening. If it runs out in a smaller stream, the radiator has blockage inside and should be replaced or repaired.
Engine Runs Too Cold - never warms up
- Most likely, the thermostat is bad, stuck partly open and not blocking the water in the engine. Replace the thermostat
Pulleys
See Pulleys
Fan
See Fan
Specifications
The stock Datsun 1200 radiator has a core of 13.0 x 13.5 inches. GX comes with three-core of same dimensions.
- Core dimensions: 13.0" x 13.5" x 1.26"
- 330 mm x 344 mm x 32 mm
- Width x Height x Thickness
- Type: Corrugate fin
- Fin spacing: 2.5 mm (0.098")
- Radiator capacity: 335 K cal/h° C
- Cap working pressure: 0.9 ± 0.1 kg/cm² (13 ± 1.4 psi)
- Water capacity with heater: 4.9 liter (5-3/16 US quart, 4-5/16 imperial qt)
- Radiator capacity: approximately 1.4 to 1.7 liter
- Bolt spacing: ~14.5" wide and 9-7/8" high
- Inlet and outlet diameter: 1"
Airflow
For proper radiator airflow:
- ensure there are no extra holes in the core support
- ensure the radiator is covering the hole (not spaced out from it)
- ensure the stock underbody plate is attached
For enhanced efficiency:
- Block any holes in the core support except the radiator hole
- Add a seal at the top of the core support, to seal the space between the ledge and the bonnet
- Add a fan shroud as with Aircon-equipped 1200s
- front air dam
- lower front of car
See discussion solving over heating problems
Part Numbers
- 21400-H1900 ASSY-RADIATOR
- replaced 21400-H1003 ASSY-RADIATOR 0871-
- replaced 21400-H1002 ASSY-RADIATOR
- replaced 21400-H1003 ASSY-RADIATOR 0871-
- 08110-6161B Bolt-hex $0.80 each USD
- 08110-61662 BOLT-HEX,WITH WASHER (4)
- 08963-10510 NUT-SPRING M5 (4) $1.08 each USD
- 21480-R0100 Water Drain Cock $2.05 USD
- 21480-18000 HANDLE-DRAIN COCK [radiator drain plug]
- 21481-18000 PACKING-DRAIN COCK [washer] $1.85 USD
- Fan shroud, fitted to automatic 1200s, 1200 GX, and optional "heavy duty" for other 1200s
- 21475-H2300 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER $24.95 USD
- 21476-H2300 SHROUD-RADIATOR,LOWER $30.40 USD
- 08513-51610 Screw $0.42 USD
- 08513-51612 SCREW-TAPPING M5
- 08915-4351A Washer $0.98 USD
- 08915-43510 WASHER-PLAIN
B120 Core
1200 Radiator from 7908-
1980-1994 radiator are like early ones, but the bottom fitting exits to the left instead of straight out as in the original
- 21400-H5010 RADIATOR ASSY B517 7510-7907
- 21400-G1660 RADIATOR ASSY B517 7908-8910
- 21400-G1661 RADIATOR ASSY B517 8910-
- 21400-H9415 RADIATOR ASSY F/OKINAWA 7804-7907
- 21400-G1665 RADIATOR ASSY F/OKINAWA 7908-8910
- 21475-H2300 SHROUD-UPPER FOR COOLER 7980-
- 21776-G1660 SHROUD-LOWER FOR COOLER 7980-
- 21775-G1660 SHROUD-UPPER FOR COOLER 7804-7907
- 21476-H2300 SHROUD-LOWER FOR COOLER 7804-7907
- 21430-U0100 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 7510-8503
- 21430-89901 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 8504-8910
- 21430-89902 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 8910- $14.73 USD
- 21501-G1600 HOSE-RADIATOR-UPPER 7510-
- 21503-G1600 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 7510-7907
- 21503-G1601 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 7908-8910
- 21503-95W00 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 8910-
Hoses
The Datsun 1200 radiator hoses are 1" inside diameter.
Lower Radiator Hose
Hoses for model with heater (split lower hose)
- 21501-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,UPPER [all models] $7.17 USD
- 21503-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER [w/o heater]
- 21506-H1101 ASSY-HOSE,RADIATOR,LOWER,FOR HEATER 0970- $17.97 USD
- Includes
- 21503-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,FRONT FOR HEATER 0870-
- Lower with heater (Rad. to Pipe): 9.5 to 10"
- 21504-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,REAR FOR HEATER 0870-
- Lower with heater (Pipe to Eng): 9.0 to 9-13/16"
- 08723-13600 CLAMP-HOSE
- 27075-H1000 CONNECTOR-HEATER
- replaced 27075-27700 CONNECTOR-HEATER
- 21503-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,FRONT FOR HEATER 0870-
- Includes
- ACDELCO Parts 20071S & 20070S. About $8 each RockAuto.com
Upper Radiator Hose
Upper radiator hose (from front of engine thermostat housing to top of radiator):
- 21501-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,UPPER, ~$5 from Nissan
- AC DELCO 20067S, ~$8.50
- 9-19/32 inch length
GX Manifold Hose
A12GX Engine uses a water-heated inlet manifold.
Fumiya Brand
Silicone hoses
Thermostat
Cooling Thermostat. $7-$16
Honda 1994 - 1996 PASSPORT
ISUZU 1989 - 1994 AMIGO, 1992 IMPULSE, 1981 I-MARK, 1981 - 1995 PICKUP, 1985 - 1989 I-MARK, 1991 - 1997 RODEO, 1988 - 1990 IMPULSE, 1984 - 1991 TROOPER
NISSAN , 1971 - 1973 1200 , 1980 - 1986 720 PICKUP , 1977 - 1988 200SX , 1977 - 1981 810 , 1979 - 1982 210 , 1974 - 1978 B210 , 1974 260Z , 1986 - 1989 D21 PICKUP , 1975 - 1978 280Z , 1976 - 1978 F10 , 1979 - 1982 280ZX , 1982 - 1984 MAXIMA , 1979 - 1982 310 , 1987 PATHFINDER , 1971 - 1973 510 , 1983 PULSAR , 1978 - 1981 510 , 1983 - 1989 PULSAR NX , 1971 - 1972 521 PICKUP , 1982 - 1988 SENTRA , 1973 - 1976 610 , 1982 - 1989 STANZA , 1972 - 1979 620 PICKUP , 1987 - 1988 VAN , 1974 - 1977 710
Coolant Temperature Sender
Switch for Temperature Gauge (thermal transmitter)
- Nissan 25080-89900 GAUGE-TEMP ENGINE UNIT
- 25251-30100 NUT [Threads for engine unit]
- required. You can re-use your old one.
- 25251-30100 NUT [Threads for engine unit]
- BECK/ARNLEY 2010247 $8.16
- Airtex 1T1181
- STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS TS69
- ACDELCO E8041, 19107020
Interchange
1971-1973 1200 1973-1976 610 1968-1970 1600 Roadster 1975-1979 620 1968-1970 2000 Roadster 1972-1974 620Pickup 1977-1983 200SX 1974-1977 710 1987-1988 200SX 1980-1985 720 1979-1982 210 1977-1979 810 1970-1973 240Z 1981 810 1974-1975 260Z 1974-1978 B210 1975-1978 280Z 1986 D21 Pickup 1979-1983 280ZX 1976-1978 F10 1980-1982 310 1982-1983 Maxima 1968-1973 510 1983-1986 PulsarNX 1978-1981 510 1983 Sentra 1968 520 Pickup 1982-1986 Stanza 1969-1972 521 Pickup
Radiator Cap
13 psi Pressure Rating (SAE Range 12-16 psi)
- 21430-89902 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR
- 21430-U0100 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR 1972-
- 21430-10600 ASSY-CAP
- 21430-U0100 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR 1972-
- STANT 10229 13 psi $3.00, 11229
- STANT Safety Release Cap 10329, 11329
- Gates 31527 $4.61
- Gates Safety Release Cap 31511 $5.08
Nissan Competition Parts
COOLING (A-SERIES)
- 21400-H2300 1200 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
- 21475-H2300 1200 FAN SHROUD (UPPER) Use with lower shroud $24.95 USD
- 21476-H2300 1200 FAN SHROUD (LOWER) Improves cooling efficiency of the 1200 $30.40 USD
- 21400-H2023 1200 FACTORY ALUMINUM RADIATOR Though designed for use in the 1200, can easily be adapted to other models with minor modifications. Will flow over 13 gallons per minute. Dimensions are 13"(w)x13"(h)x2.25"(d)
- 21400-H5001 B210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR (TO 8/74) 3-core radiator de signed for high-performance applications
- 21400-H7210 B210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR (8/75 TO 7/76) 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
- 99996-H2500 B210 W/P & FAN CLUTCH ASSY No HP loss due to needless operation of fan at high RPM. Kit includes all required parts
- 21400-H9300 210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
Reference: 1984 Nissan Competition Parts catalog
Upgrades
The stock radiator is adequate, but can be marginal on the hottest summer days over 100F or 33C. Upgrades include:
- Bolt-in B210 radiator or B310 , just a bit bigger makes a lot of difference in cooling
- B210 a/c radiator, bigger yet. Just need some simple brackets
B210 & B310 Radiator
All B210 and B310 radiators are same height as 1200 radiators. Plus they come with shrouds as standard equipment.
Width
- 1973 B110 ~14.5" bolt spacing width (manual transmission)
- 1979 B310 USA 17-3/8" bolt spacing width (A15 with 4-speed)
- 1980 B310 USA 20-1/8" bolt spacing width (A15 with 5-speed)
B210 1974 is same size as B110 (1.7 liter), but B210 with A14 radiators are wider. There is one size wider radiator, in AUTO (with AT cooler lines, 2.5 liter)) and two manual part numbers (2.7 liter, which vary slightly).
B210 USA CATALOG
* 21400-H5201 ASSY-RADIATOR 1974 USA
* 21500-H7210 ASSY-RADIATOR FP2.5 WITH OILCOOLER AUTO 0974-
* 21400-H7210 ASSY-RADIATOR FP2.7 MANUAL
* 21400-H7400 ASSY-RADIATOR FP2.7 MANUAL
The last three are not directly interchangeable but are the same width.
Radiator 21400-H5201 -0874 (AUTO & MANUAL ~1.5/1.7 liter)
* 21475-H5000 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER AUTO -0974
* 21476-H5000 SHROUD-RADIATOR LOWER AUTO -0874
Same size as B110 radiator?
Radiator 21500-H7210 (AUTO 2.5 liter) 0974-
* 21475-H7210 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER 0974-
* 21475-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER (PP) or 21475-H7211 (NP) AUTO(CAN) 0876-
* 21476-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR LOWER (PP) or 21476-H7211 (NP) 0876-
** replaces 21476-H7210 SHROUD-RADIATOR LOWER 0974-0775
Radiator 21400-H7210 (MANUAL 2.7 liter) MANUAL 0974-0775, MANUAL USA 0876-
* 21475-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER (PP) or 21475-H7211 (NP) 0875-0776
* 21476-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR LOWER (PP) or 21476-H7211 (NP) USA 0876-
Radiator 21400-H7400 (MANUAL 2.7 liter) USA 0875-0776 CANADA 0875-
* 21475-H7500 SHROUD-RADIATOR,BOTH MANUAL(CAN) 0875-
* 21475-H7500 SHROUD-RADIATOR,BOTH MANUAL(USA) 0875-0776
* 21475-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER (PP) or 21475-H7211 (NP) 0875-0776
* 21475-H7212 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER (PP) or 21475-H7211 (NP) USA 0876-
B210 JDM CATALOG
Small width, 1973-1975, same as B110:
* 21400-H5201 ASSY-RADIATOR A12 AUTO
* 21400-H5200 ASSY-RADIATOR A12 MANUAL
Unknown Width:
* 21400-H5010 ASSY-RADIATOR VAN A12 1975-1977
Larger width, 1975-1977:
* 21500-H7210 ASSY-RADIATOR A14S AUTO
* 21400-H7400 ASSY-RADIATOR A14S MANUAL, A12 SEDAN & COUPE
* 21400-H7210 ASSY-RADIATOR A14T
Only the A14 models were fitted with a shroud.
B310 JDM CATALOG
All came with shroud, except A12/A13 w/o aircon.
* 21400-H5010 RADIATOR ASSY VAN A12
Larger width:
* 21500-H7400 RADIATOR ASSY
* 21500-W5001 RADIATOR ASSY A15S
* 21500-H9200 RADIATOR ASSY A14E
* 21500-H9205 RADIATOR ASSY A15E
* 21400-H9415 RADIATOR ASSY VAN A12 F/OKINAWA
* 21400-H7415 RADIATOR ASSY F/OKINAWA
* 21500-W5015 RADIATOR ASSY A15S F/OKINAWA
* 21500-H9215 RADIATOR ASSY A14E F/OKINAWA
* 21500-H9216 RADIATOR ASSY A15E F/OKINAWA
Shroud
* 21475-H8500 SHROUD ASSY
* 21475-H8800 SHROUD ASSY VAN A12 F/AIRCON
* 21475-H8900 SHROUD ASSY AT
B310 USA CATALOG
AUTOMATIC
* 21500-H9100 RADIATOR ASSY W/OIL COOLER AUTO(SEDAN,COUPE) -0979
* 21500-H9700 RADIATOR ASSY W/OIL COOLER AUTO(WAGON) -0979
* 21500-H9701 RADIATOR ASSY W/OIL COOLER AUTO 1079- replaced H9700
MANUAL RADIATORS
Width: 17-3/8" bolt spacing:
* 21400-H9100 RADIATOR ASSY MANUAL -0779
* 21400-H9100 RADIATOR ASSY A14(MAN) 0879-0979
* 21400-H9100 RADIATOR ASSY A12(CAN) 0879-0979
* 21400-H9110 RADIATOR ASSY A12(USA) 0879-0979
* 21400-H9111 RADIATOR ASSY A12 1079- 2 21400-H9110
* 21400-H9101 RADIATOR ASSY A14(MANUAL) 1079-0780 2 21400-H9100
Width unknown:
* 21400-H9900 RADIATOR ASSY A14(HL-RSFU,RFN) 0880-
Width: 20-1/8" bolt spacing:
* 21400-H9120 RADIATOR ASSY A15(MANUAL) 1279-
Width: 17-3/8" bolt spacing:
Radiator 21400-H9100, 21400-H9101
Radiator 21400-H9110, 21400-H9111
* 21475-H8500 SHROUD-RADIATOR MANUAL(A12,A14)
Width unknown:
Radiator 21400-H9900
* 21590-H9900 MOTOR ASSY-W/SHROUD MANUAL(RSFU,RFN) 0980-
AUTO Radiator 21500-H9100
Width: 20-1/8" bolt spacing:
Radiator 21400-H9120
AUTO Radiator 21500-H9700, 21500-H9701
* 21475-H8600 SHROUD-RADIATOR AUTO(A15) MANUAL(A15) superceeded 21475-H8900
Brand new aluminum radiator, $43 USD
The hot tip for modified or competition is a Brand new aluminum radiator, $43 USD: 1986 Volkswagen Golf radiator, narrow version that is 24" wide. The AC models have a wider radiator.
Pluses
- light weight
- high capacity
- Inexpensive ($43.00 new from Halsey Automotive in Portland OR)
Minuses
- both hose connections are on the right side so you have to make a long lower hose
- also needs a purge tank so the tank can be filled