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- | Speedometers were either in kilometers (JDM) or miles (USA). Australia started with mph and then switched to kph. Some speedometers had a trip meter. | + | Speedometers were either in kilometers or miles. Australia started with mph and then switched to kph via sticker overlays. Some speedometers had a trip meter. |
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2148 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2148.jpg] Comparo [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13742 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/13742.jpg] | + | = Overview = |
+ | {{OwnersManual2x|29368|p1=08|29369|p2=09|Instrument and Controls}} | ||
- | <blockquote><table border=1 cellspacing=0><tr><td> | + | [[#STD_bar_gauge|#Bar Speedometer]] |
- | 1972 USA Owners manual (see page 8,9 for Speedometer): | + | <br>{{Album|28385}} |
- | <br>[http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/ http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/thumbs/00_cover.jpg] [http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/08.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/thumbs/08.jpg] [http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/09.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/wiki/om1972/thumbs/09.jpg] <blockquote><hr>Instrument and Controls<hr></blockquote> | + | |
- | </td></tr></table></blockquote> | + | [[#Round_gauge|#Round Speedometer]] |
+ | <br>{{Album|7725}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{See|Cluster Gauge}} | ||
+ | {{See|Dashboard}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | = {{RefNo|Odometer|}} Odograph = | ||
+ | The odometer has five digits as shown by this 2006 unit: | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|17172}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | When the count exceeds 99999 it turns back to 00000. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Album|23010}} | ||
= Variations = | = Variations = | ||
- | * ?? 100MPH w/o tripmeter (US standard equipment) | + | == STD bar gauge == |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10675 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10675.jpg] | + | STD speedometer was a rectangular type (GL & GX used round gauges as did all coupes). DX varied: Mostly rectangular, but USA Deluxe had round gauges. |
- | * ?? 100MPH with tripmeter | + | <br>{{Album|1085}} |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=571 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/571.gif] | + | |
- | * 24850-H3400 1200 120MPH SPEEDOMETER Includes tripmeter | + | |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6551 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6551.jpg] | + | |
- | = Metric-Imperial Conversion = | + | 24850-B8600 B110 ute Speedometer until 1975-1978 |
- | Sometimes on eBay Australia you can get the vintage conversion stickers. | + | <br>{{Album|28384}} |
+ | <br>24850-B8600 KANTO SEIKI TOKYO 160K km/h with wire for intermittent buzzer | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15393 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/15393.jpg] | + | {{images|%E3%82%B5%E3%83%8B%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC|サニトラバーメーター}} |
+ | == Round gauge == | ||
+ | Comparo | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|2148}} | ||
- | OR | + | For calibration, the MPH speedo is marked in KPH ranges on the very edge, which are partly visible when installed. |
+ | <br>{{Album|13742}} | ||
- | Take the face plate and scan it on the flatbad scanner, then modify it. Finally, print a new one out with the photo printer. You can modify the font, colors, etc. Bolt it to the speedo using the standard screws. | + | [[Meter_Part_Numbers#USA|24850-H1816]] 100MPH w/o tripmeter (AUS/USA standard equipment) |
+ | <br>{{Album|10675}} | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5362 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5362.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1101 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1101.jpg] | + | ?? 100MPH with tripmeter |
+ | <br>{{Album|571|gif}} | ||
+ | 1973 5mph marks | ||
+ | <br>{{Photo!|2028.jpg}} | ||
- | == Speedometer Calibration == | + | [[1984_Nissan_Competition_Catalog#Tachometer.2C_Speedometer_and_Exhaust|24850-H3400]] 1200 120MPH SPEEDOMETER Includes tripmeter |
- | There are two basic reasons for speedos reading fast or slow: | + | <br>{{Album|25954}} {{Photo!|6551.jpg}} {{Album|6551}} |
- | # Factory speedometer tolerance is usually 5% fast to 10% slow (this is in general, I don't know what Nissan's specs are) | + | |
- | #: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=13971&forum=1 1200 Top Speed] discusses this. One magazine test noted the 1200 speedometer in the test car was 7% slow. My 1200s have been between 7.5% - 10% slow (with stock running gear include tire size). Also see [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2028 speedo off] | + | |
- | # Different size tires than original, changed diff ratio or transmission | + | |
- | For the latter, there is a mechanical solution of changing to the appropriate speedo-drive gear at the back of the transmission: | + | 140 kph |
+ | <br>{{PhotoPost|1300060168_177086830_11-DATSUN-SADO-.jpg|393690|Datsun%201200/1200AX}} | ||
+ | 160 kph | ||
+ | <br>{{Photo!|15621.jpg}} | ||
+ | 160 kph late | ||
+ | <br>{{Photo!|2729.jpg}} | ||
- | For the former, where you have the "right" size tires, final gear ratio and stock transmission -- the speedometer itself may be calibrated. | + | GX - 180 kph |
+ | <br>{{Photo|d2.jpg}} | ||
+ | [[#Facelift GX]] - 180 kph | ||
+ | <br>{{Photo!|22.jpg|Datsun%201200/GX5}} | ||
- | Where can you go to get a speedo calibrated? Can it be done at home? | + | [http://www.matsuoka-m.com/web/parts/interior/240km.html Matsuoka] - 240 kph |
- | * [http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/dash/st201.htm MGA Guru: Speedometer calibration] | + | <br>{{Album|26445}} |
+ | [[B140]] 2008 | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|26989}} {{UploadPost|174_589e901cb017b.jpg|483841}} | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14098 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14098.jpg] | + | == Facelift GX == |
- | * Scale Adjusted for low gearing, looks good printed on photo paper and bolted to speedometer. | + | Gauges changed for the [[Facelift|1972 minor facelift]] in Japan. As before the GX speedometer went to 180km/h instead of the regular 160km/h. As with all 1972s it had the speed warning sensor. |
- | * I modified mine to change the scale since I didn't want to get under the car and change the plastic speedo gears. | + | |
+ | {{See|Cluster_Gauge#Facelift}} | ||
- | == Amplifier Speed Switch == | + | {{Photo|22.jpg|Datsun%201200/GX5}} {{Album|21084}} {{UploadPost|174_5d61ac9394fe3.jpg|492370}} |
- | USA model from 0772 use an amplifier speed switch. | + | |
- | * 25035-H7000 ASSY-AMPLIFIER SPEED SWITCH | + | |
+ | {{Album|18701}} {{Album|18702}} | ||
- | Australia models also used it, dates unknown. | + | = Part Numbers = |
+ | == Round == | ||
+ | USA | ||
+ | 24850-H1816 ASSY-SPEEDOMETER 100MILE/H [With 20 mph markings] | ||
+ | 24850-H7000 ASSY-SPEEDOMETER 100MILE/H From 7/72 [With 10 mph markings] | ||
+ | [[1984_Nissan_Competition_Catalog#Tachometer.2C_Speedometer_and_Exhaust|24850-H3400]] 120MPH SPEEDOMETER Includes tripmeter | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13695 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/13695.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11981 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11981.jpg] | + | JDM Sunny Truck |
+ | 24850-G1670 SPEEDOMETER ASSY 7804- [Round] | ||
- | = Custom Faces = | + | == Rectangle == |
- | See [[Custom Dash Faces]] | + | JDM Sunny Truck |
+ | [[Meter_Part_Numbers#Sunny Truck|24850-G1000]] SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (up to '72-6) | ||
+ | 24850-G1001 SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (from '72-7 for [[Instrument_Panel_Wiring#Speed Buzzer|speed buzzer]]) > 24850-G1000 | ||
+ | 24850-G1002 SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (from '72-12 for intermittent buzzer) > 24850-G1001 | ||
+ | 24850-B8600 SPEEDOMETER ASSY 7510-7803 [Rectangle] | ||
- | = Speedometer Cable = | + | JDM Meter Kaku (Bar Gauge) |
- | The cable for manual transmission and Automatic are different | + | Through '70 Dec |
+ | [[Meter_Part_Numbers#1971|24850-H1000]] ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER Std | ||
+ | 24850-H1100 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Dx, VDT [Van Super-Deluxe T] | ||
+ | * with trip meter | ||
+ | From '71 Jan | ||
+ | 24850-H1001 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Std | ||
+ | 24850-H1101 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Dx | ||
+ | * with trip meter | ||
+ | 24850-H1410 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER VS,VP [Van Standard, Van Deluxe] | ||
+ | 24850-H1401 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER VDT | ||
+ | * with trip meter | ||
- | Nissan Part Numbers | + | H10 ? - all red lamps |
+ | <br>{{Album|8400}} | ||
- | B10 | + | MPH Rectangle - 0-100 Miles Per Hour |
- | * 25058-89914 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer B10 M/T | + | <br>{{Upload|10290_4a2f72d1a2c39.jpg}} |
- | * 25058-89915 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer B10 Automatic | + | |
- | B110 - both interchange | + | B86 - Blue H.B. lamp + yellow/red zones |
- | * 25058-H1000 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer Length=1500 | + | <br>{{Album|25031}} |
- | * 25058-H1001 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer Length=1400 | + | |
- | B210 | + | KPH+MPH |
- | * 25050-H5000 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer Length=1700 | + | <br>{{Upload|277_4c0264d7b3d4a.jpg}} |
- | ** B5050-Y8101 supercedes 25050-H5000 | + | |
- | * 25050-H5900 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer Length=1650 w/Master Vac | + | |
- | * 25050-H7403 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer w/63-series trans | + | |
- | * 25050-H7410 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer A14 automatic | + | |
- | * 25050-H7411 ASS'Y-SHAFT, flexible speedometer A12 | + | |
- | = Drive Ratios = | + | = Metric-Imperial Conversion = |
- | Stock 1200 Speedometer gear ratio: | + | Sometimes on eBay Australia you can get the vintage conversion stickers. |
- | * 17/5 (17 tooth pinion, 5 tooth worm drive on trans output shaft) | + | <br>{{AlbumH|923}} {{AlbumH|5362}} |
- | * 18/5 for Wagon | + | |
- | Available ratios | + | OR |
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15669 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/15669.jpg] | + | |
+ | print this on plain paper at 125%, for a test fit. If you like it, print on sticker stock then apply to the speedometer | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|1101}} | ||
- | [[56-Series Transmission]] and [[60-Series Transmission]] | + | OR |
- | * 32703-15400 PINION SPEEDOMETER 17T | + | |
- | * 32702-15400 ASSY-PINION SPEEDOMETER 17T | + | |
- | * 32703-H1000 PINION SPEEDOMETER 18T | + | |
- | * 32702-H1000 ASSY-PINION SPEEDOMETER 18T (B120, 1975-1979) | + | |
- | * 32702-H1001 ASSY-PINION SPEEDOMETER 19T (B120, 1980 up) | + | |
+ | Take the face plate and scan it on the flatbad scanner, then modify it. Finally, print a new one out with the photo printer. You can modify the font, colors, etc. You might think you can simply bolt it to the speedo using the standard screws, but it will not lay flat. Adhesive paper (sticker paper) will work | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|15393}} | ||
- | [[Automatic Transmission]] | + | = Speedometer Calibration = |
- | * 32703-P2621 PINION SPEEDOMETER 20T (auto) | + | It is normal for the speedometer '''to read fast'''. The specified tolerance is +5% -10%. So at actual 60mph it can read 57 to 66 and still be acceptable. But you can blueprint the speedometer to be closer to the actual speed. |
- | * 32703-P2620 PINION SPEEDOMETER 20T (auto) | + | |
- | * 32702-P2719 ASSY-PINION SPEEDOMETER 19T (auto) | + | |
+ | {{Main|Speedometer Calibration}} | ||
- | [[63-Series Transmission]] | + | = Speed Buzzer = |
- | * 32703-N9016 PINION SPEEDOMETER 16T | + | Starting in 1972, all JDM speedometer came with speed switch for warning of excess velocity. |
- | * 32703-N9018 PINION SPEEDOMETER 18T | + | |
- | * 32703-N9019 PINION SPEEDOMETER 19T | + | {{Main|Instrument_Panel_Wiring#Speed Buzzer}} |
+ | |||
+ | = Amplifier Speed Switch = | ||
+ | 1972 Japan, Australia late utes and 1973 USA used a speed switch. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Main|Instrument_Panel_Wiring#Speed Switch}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Album!|13695}} {{Photo!|20090615145339DSC07168x.jpg|Datsun%20Misc}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | = Alternatives = | ||
+ | Possible fit: [{{Post|132123}} Smith's guage from a Triumph] | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|10754}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | VDO | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|11799}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | 220km/h coversion from Matsuoka-M | ||
+ | <br>{{UploadPost|174_5ce20bfaa0bb6.jpg|491450}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Custom Faces == | ||
+ | {{Main|Custom Dash Faces}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Photo!|speedo_x_th.jpg}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Z Speedometer == | ||
+ | [[Fairlady#S30|280Z]] speedometer fits in the 1200 dash cluster. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Photo2|001.jpg}} | ||
+ | # Swap the mounting cups as the 280Z unit is deeper | ||
+ | # Drill a hole for the trip meter shaft through the back | ||
+ | # The face is to large for the opening in the 1200 housing, so carefully reduce the diameter by 1/8 inch | ||
+ | |||
+ | 350Z speedometer looks a similar size. | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|14499}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Electronic Speedometer == | ||
+ | Yes, you can fit an electronic speedometer into a 1200. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Main|Electronic Speedometer}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Album!|7813}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | = Speedometer Cable = | ||
+ | {{Main|Speedometer Cable}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | = Drive Ratios = | ||
+ | {{Main|Speedometer Gears}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Album!|15669}} {{Photo!|19T.jpg}} | ||
= Photo Index = | = Photo Index = | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=226 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/226.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1085 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1085.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2192 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2192.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2729 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2729.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4352 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4352.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5043 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5043.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8881 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8881.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9301 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9301.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10675 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10675.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10754 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10754.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10934 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10934.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10935 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10935.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11799 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11799.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12944 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12944.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13092 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/13092.jpg] | + | {{Main|Standard Dash Photo Index}} |
- | [[Category:Body Electrical System]] | + | {{Main|Round Dash Photo Index}} |
+ | |||
+ | {{AlbumH|2192}} {{AlbumH|2729}} {{AlbumH|5043}} {{AlbumH|8881}} {{AlbumH|10934}} {{AlbumH|10935}} {{AlbumH|12944}} {{AlbumH|13092}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | スピードメーター | ||
+ | |||
+ | [[Category:Body Electrical System]]{{End}} |
Current revision
Speedometers were either in kilometers or miles. Australia started with mph and then switched to kph via sticker overlays. Some speedometers had a trip meter.
Contents |
Overview
Odograph
The odometer has five digits as shown by this 2006 unit:
When the count exceeds 99999 it turns back to 00000.
Variations
STD bar gauge
STD speedometer was a rectangular type (GL & GX used round gauges as did all coupes). DX varied: Mostly rectangular, but USA Deluxe had round gauges.
24850-B8600 B110 ute Speedometer until 1975-1978
24850-B8600 KANTO SEIKI TOKYO 160K km/h with wire for intermittent buzzer
Round gauge
For calibration, the MPH speedo is marked in KPH ranges on the very edge, which are partly visible when installed.
24850-H1816 100MPH w/o tripmeter (AUS/USA standard equipment)
1973 5mph marks
24850-H3400 1200 120MPH SPEEDOMETER Includes tripmeter
160 kph
160 kph late
GX - 180 kph
#Facelift GX - 180 kph
Matsuoka - 240 kph
B140 2008
Facelift GX
Gauges changed for the 1972 minor facelift in Japan. As before the GX speedometer went to 180km/h instead of the regular 160km/h. As with all 1972s it had the speed warning sensor.
Part Numbers
Round
USA 24850-H1816 ASSY-SPEEDOMETER 100MILE/H [With 20 mph markings] 24850-H7000 ASSY-SPEEDOMETER 100MILE/H From 7/72 [With 10 mph markings] 24850-H3400 120MPH SPEEDOMETER Includes tripmeter
JDM Sunny Truck 24850-G1670 SPEEDOMETER ASSY 7804- [Round]
Rectangle
JDM Sunny Truck 24850-G1000 SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (up to '72-6) 24850-G1001 SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (from '72-7 for speed buzzer) > 24850-G1000 24850-G1002 SPEEDOMETER ASS'Y (from '72-12 for intermittent buzzer) > 24850-G1001 24850-B8600 SPEEDOMETER ASSY 7510-7803 [Rectangle]
JDM Meter Kaku (Bar Gauge) Through '70 Dec 24850-H1000 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER Std 24850-H1100 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Dx, VDT [Van Super-Deluxe T] * with trip meter From '71 Jan 24850-H1001 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Std 24850-H1101 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER S-Dx * with trip meter 24850-H1410 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER VS,VP [Van Standard, Van Deluxe] 24850-H1401 ASS'Y-SPEEDOMETER VDT * with trip meter
MPH Rectangle - 0-100 Miles Per Hour
B86 - Blue H.B. lamp + yellow/red zones
Metric-Imperial Conversion
Sometimes on eBay Australia you can get the vintage conversion stickers.
OR
print this on plain paper at 125%, for a test fit. If you like it, print on sticker stock then apply to the speedometer
OR
Take the face plate and scan it on the flatbad scanner, then modify it. Finally, print a new one out with the photo printer. You can modify the font, colors, etc. You might think you can simply bolt it to the speedo using the standard screws, but it will not lay flat. Adhesive paper (sticker paper) will work
Speedometer Calibration
It is normal for the speedometer to read fast. The specified tolerance is +5% -10%. So at actual 60mph it can read 57 to 66 and still be acceptable. But you can blueprint the speedometer to be closer to the actual speed.
Speed Buzzer
Starting in 1972, all JDM speedometer came with speed switch for warning of excess velocity.
Amplifier Speed Switch
1972 Japan, Australia late utes and 1973 USA used a speed switch.
Alternatives
Possible fit: POST Smith's guage from a Triumph
220km/h coversion from Matsuoka-M
Custom Faces
Z Speedometer
280Z speedometer fits in the 1200 dash cluster.
- Swap the mounting cups as the 280Z unit is deeper
- Drill a hole for the trip meter shaft through the back
- The face is to large for the opening in the 1200 housing, so carefully reduce the diameter by 1/8 inch
350Z speedometer looks a similar size.
Electronic Speedometer
Yes, you can fit an electronic speedometer into a 1200.
Speedometer Cable
Drive Ratios
Photo Index
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