Datsun 1200 uses a small radiator, perfectly adequate for 69HP when in good condition. Using a small radiator is good for light weight and efficiency.
Also see:
* Water pump
* Coolant/Antifreeze Specifications
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Overview
B110 radiator has 20% more cooling capactity, and same weight. The capacity increase was intended for high speed running.
GX Radiator 21400-H2300 (3-core)
Block detail including Welch Plugs and block Drain Plug
Temperature
It is not unusual with any 10-year old stock radiator for the temperature to rise during summer. If this occurs with your Datsun, don't panic. The engine can run all day close to the "H" mark.
DO NOT let it go onto the H mark. Pull over immediately if it goes past the H mark. Don't wait 30 seconds, it could be too late.
Typical Temperature
If this worries you, fit a slightly larger radiator to provide more cooling than Datsun provided with the 1200s.
According to Owner's Manual: Water Temperature Gauge,
the engine will run "satisfactorily" in this range:
1972 USA Owners manual (Page 10 ... ):
For most types of driving, the pointer will hover about halfway. However, the engine will run satisfactorily when the pointer is at any position in the middle range.
TIP: Use the stock engine-drive fan. Electric fans are notorious for failing to cool the radiator in stop/go traffic. Of course an electric fan can work well, but many don't.
What is the correct temperature the engine should run at?
Primarily, this depends on the thermostat. The engine can run fine at a variety of temperatures. You can get different temp thermostats, and the coolant should stay steady at that temperature.
Datsun factory options were:
* THERMOSTAT 170 F (75.5c optional, for tropical use) * THERMOSTAT 180 F (82 c, for standard use) * THERMOSTAT 190 C (88 c, optional for winter)
These three thermostats were mainly because of the heater. 170 for hot climes so the room heater won't put out much heat, 190 for cold climes so the heater puts out more heat.
180 is recommended for all street cars, it will keep the oil at optimum temperature (oil runs about 20 degrees hotter than the coolant). A guy at the oil company told me 180 is ideal for the oil working the best. He went through training for Mobile I think it was and they were formulating oil for 200 degrees, which works out to be 20 degrees warmer than the coolant for most engines. Maybe it's changed now but it won't be colder as engines now run hotter than ever. If anyone has documentation for this please add it here.
160-degree is favored by some for drag racing as they tune the carbs for cold dense air, or for use with low octane fuel. But EFI computers don't run well at cold temps nor does the oil, and cold temps mean more engine wear. Cold temps are not recommended.
But won't I make more HP with a colder thermostat?
Not if your carburetor jetting is stock -- it expects warmer less dense air. And when you floor the accelerator pedal, the air cleaner hot air duct opens up letting only cooler air in, and the stock Hitachi compensates via the power valve. Those clever Datsun engineers had it covered.
Many cars use a 195 F degree thermostat along with a 14 lb. radiator cap to raise the boiling point. A radiator is more efficient at higher temperatures, because the temperature differential to the air will be greater, thus shedding heat faster. In turn airflow can be reduced which increases aerodynamics.
After the thermostat, the radiator is the next factor. If your temp. stays steady except on hot summer days (which is normal), you can use a bit larger replacement radiator and it will stay steady even during temperature peaks. Use either a new unit, rebuilt unit, or a good used unit from a B210 or B310, which are larger than the 1200 radiator.
See main article: Thermostat
Pressure Cap
Use a 4.7 lb cap as per original specification. The high-pressure 14.7 lb (1 bar) caps are solely for 100-degree (212F) thermostats. A lower pressure will help prevent leaks in the radiator, heater core and hose connections.
Nissan "push button" cap
* 21430-16300
Extra high-pressure
Extra high-pressure caps allow the engine to run above boiling point of the coolant. The extra high temperature means the radiator sheds head faster (larger temp differential to the air). This means a smaller radiator will be adequate.
The downside is that old radiators, heater cores and hoses may not be able to handle the pressure and may start leaking.
Trouble Diagnoses
Don't bother to replace the radiator before you test it! Make sure it's bad first.
Engine Runs Too Hot - boils over
- Your thermostat may be bad, stuck partly closed and not allowing the water to flow. Test the thermostat
- Radiator blocked. Test the flow.
- Radiator fins damaged. Inspect the core for missing (rusted away) fins
- Electric Fan not working correctly. Check for proper rotation, if it's backwards overheating will occur. Check to see if the fan is running.
Radiator Flow Test
Take off the lower hose of the radiator. Block it with your hand, and fill the radiator with plain water. Take your hand off and the water should gush out -- in as big a stream as the lower opening. If it runs out in a smaller stream, the radiator has blockage inside and should be replaced or repaired.
Thermostat Tests
A simple test for overheating is to remove the thermostat. If then it keeps cool you know that's the problem and should replace thermostat. For more advanced testing see Thermostat#Thermostat_Testing.
Engine Runs Too Cold - never warms up
- Most likely, the thermostat is bad, stuck partly open and not blocking the water in the engine. Replace the thermostat
General Rules of Thumb
- Heating up at idle is usually caused by the fan, especially electric fans
- Heating up at speed is usually caused by the radiator
- Heating up at all time (idling, low, medium or high speed) might be the thermostat
- Another cause is a mis-reading Temperature Gauge
Radiator Flush
You can try a radiator flushing additive but I'm not sure on their effectiveness.
Use a garden hose and flush water through the cooling system (from both top and bottom hoses) until it runs clear, then refill with proper coolant. Don't forget to turn the heater to hot so it gets flushed as well.
IMPORTANT: Don't forget to bleed the cooling system. Fill it with coolant and run the engine (with no radiator cap and heater on hot) until the thermostat opens (you will see (hot)coolant flowing rapidly across the top of the radiator), then top it up and shut the engine off, leaving it to cool comepletely. Once cold, top up the coolant and put the radiator cap on.
Pulleys
See Pulleys
Fan
See Fan
Specifications
The stock Datsun 1200 radiator has a core of 13.0 x 13.5 inches. GX comes with three-core of same dimensions.
- Overall dimensions 465mm tall & 381mm wide (18.3" tall x 15" wide)
- including brackets. Tall dimension is to top of radiator cap.
- Core dimensions (width x height x thickness)
- 330 mm x 344 mm x 32 mm (12.9" x 13.1" x 1.26")
- Type: Corrugated fin and tube type
- Fin spacing: 2.5 mm (0.0984")
- Radiator capacity: 335 K cal/h° C nominal 300 minimum
- air velocity at front
- 5 m capacity: 12 liter/minute
- Cap working pressure: 0.9 ± 0.1 kg/cm² (13 ± 1.4 psi)
- Water capacity with heater: 4.9 liter (5-3/16 US quart, 4-5/16 imperial qt)
- boiling point @ pressure: 244F/118C
- Radiator capacity: approximately 1.4 to 1.7 liter or 1.18 liter (0.31 us gal)
- Test pressure: 22.8 lb. in. (1.6 kg/cm2)
- Bolt spacing: 368 mm wide x 251 mm high (~14.5" wide and 9-7/8" high)
- Inlet and outlet diameter: 1" (25.4 mm) I.D. (1-1/8" O.D. including nipple)
Airflow
For proper radiator airflow:
- ensure there are no extra holes in the core support
- ensure the radiator is covering the hole (not spaced out from it)
- ensure the stock underbody plate is attached
Got gap? See Radiator Mounting
For enhanced efficiency:
- Block any holes in the core support except the radiator hole
- Add a seal at the top of the core support, to seal the space between the ledge and the bonnet
- Add a fan shroud as with Aircon-equipped 1200s
- front air dam
- lower front of car
See discussion solving over heating problems
Part Numbers
- 21400-H1900 ASSY-RADIATOR
- replaced 21400-H1003 ASSY-RADIATOR 0871-
- replaced 21400-H1002 ASSY-RADIATOR
- replaced 21400-H1003 ASSY-RADIATOR 0871-
- 08110-6161B Bolt-hex $0.80 each USD
- 08110-61662 BOLT-HEX,WITH WASHER (4)
- 08963-10510 NUT-SPRING M5 (4) $1.08 each USD
- 21480-R0100 Water Drain Cock $2.05 USD
- 21480-18000 HANDLE-DRAIN COCK [radiator drain plug]
- 21481-18000 PACKING-DRAIN COCK [washer] $1.85 USD
- Fan shroud, fitted to automatic 1200s, 1200 GX, and optional "heavy duty" for other 1200s
- 21475-H2300 SHROUD-RADIATOR UPPER $24.95 USD
- 21476-H2300 SHROUD-RADIATOR,LOWER $30.40 USD
- 08513-51610 Screw $0.42 USD
- 08513-51612 SCREW-TAPPING M5
- 08915-4351A Washer $0.98 USD
- 08915-43510 WASHER-PLAIN
B120 Core
1200 Radiator from 7908-
1980-1994 radiator are like early ones, but the bottom fitting exits to the left instead of straight out as in the original
- 21400-H5010 RADIATOR ASSY B517 7510-7907
- 21400-G1660 RADIATOR ASSY B517 7908-8910
- 21400-G1661 RADIATOR ASSY B517 8910-
- 21400-H9415 RADIATOR ASSY F/OKINAWA 7804-7907
- 21400-G1665 RADIATOR ASSY F/OKINAWA 7908-8910
- 21475-H2300 SHROUD-UPPER FOR COOLER 7980-
- 21776-G1660 SHROUD-LOWER FOR COOLER 7980-
- 21775-G1660 SHROUD-UPPER FOR COOLER 7804-7907
- 21476-H2300 SHROUD-LOWER FOR COOLER 7804-7907
- 21430-U0100 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 7510-8503
- 21430-89901 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 8504-8910
- 21430-89902 CAP ASSY-RADIATOR 8910- $14.73 USD
- 21501-G1600 HOSE-RADIATOR-UPPER 7510-
- 21503-G1600 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 7510-7907
- 21503-G1601 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 7908-8910
- 21503-95W00 HOSE-RADIATOR-LOWER 8910-
Hoses
The Datsun 1200 radiator hoses are 1" inside diameter.
Lower Radiator Hose
Hoses for model with heater (split lower hose)
- 21501-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,UPPER [all models] $7.17 USD
- 21503-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER [w/o heater]
- 21506-H1101 ASSY-HOSE,RADIATOR,LOWER,FOR HEATER 0970- $17.97 USD
- Includes
- 21503-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,FRONT FOR HEATER 0870-
- Lower with heater (Rad. to Pipe): 9.5 to 10"
- 21504-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,REAR FOR HEATER 0870-
- Lower with heater (Pipe to Eng): 9.0 to 9-13/16"
- 08723-13600 CLAMP-HOSE
- 27075-H1000 CONNECTOR-HEATER
- replaced 27075-27700 CONNECTOR-HEATER
- 21503-H1100 HOSE-RADIATOR,LOWER,FRONT FOR HEATER 0870-
- Includes
- ACDELCO Parts 20071S & 20070S. About $8 each RockAuto.com
Upper Radiator Hose
Upper radiator hose (from front of engine thermostat housing to top of radiator):
- 21501-H1000 HOSE-RADIATOR,UPPER, ~$5 from Nissan
- AC DELCO 20067S, ~$8.50
- 9-19/32 inch length
GX Manifold Hose
A12GX Engine uses a water-heated inlet manifold.
Fumiya Brand
Silicone hoses
Thermostat
Cooling Thermostat. $7-$16
Honda 1994 - 1996 PASSPORT
ISUZU 1989 - 1994 AMIGO, 1992 IMPULSE, 1981 I-MARK, 1981 - 1995 PICKUP, 1985 - 1989 I-MARK, 1991 - 1997 RODEO, 1988 - 1990 IMPULSE, 1984 - 1991 TROOPER
NISSAN , 1971 - 1973 1200 , 1980 - 1986 720 PICKUP , 1977 - 1988 200SX , 1977 - 1981 810 , 1979 - 1982 210 , 1974 - 1978 B210 , 1974 260Z , 1986 - 1989 D21 PICKUP , 1975 - 1978 280Z , 1976 - 1978 F10 , 1979 - 1982 280ZX , 1982 - 1984 MAXIMA , 1979 - 1982 310 , 1987 PATHFINDER , 1971 - 1973 510 , 1983 PULSAR , 1978 - 1981 510 , 1983 - 1989 PULSAR NX , 1971 - 1972 521 PICKUP , 1982 - 1988 SENTRA , 1973 - 1976 610 , 1982 - 1989 STANZA , 1972 - 1979 620 PICKUP , 1987 - 1988 VAN , 1974 - 1977 710
Coolant Temperature Sender
Switch for Temperature Gauge (thermal transmitter): See Temperature Gauge
Radiator Cap
13 psi Pressure Rating (SAE Range 12-16 psi)
- 21430-89902 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR
- 21430-U0100 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR 1972-
- 21430-10600 ASSY-CAP
- 21430-U0100 ASSY-CAP RADIATOR 1972-
- STANT 10229 13 psi $3.00, 11229
- STANT Safety Release Cap 10329, 11329
- Gates 31527 $4.61
- Gates Safety Release Cap 31511 $5.08
Nissan button-release
21430-16300
Nissan Competition Parts
COOLING (A-SERIES)
- 21400-H2300 1200 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
- 21475-H2300 1200 FAN SHROUD (UPPER) Use with lower shroud $24.95 USD
- 21476-H2300 1200 FAN SHROUD (LOWER) Improves cooling efficiency of the 1200 $30.40 USD
- 21400-H2023 1200 FACTORY ALUMINUM RADIATOR Though designed for use in the 1200, can easily be adapted to other models with minor modifications. Will flow over 13 gallons per minute. Dimensions are 13"(w)x13"(h)x2.25"(d)
- 21400-H5001 B210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR (TO 8/74) 3-core radiator de signed for high-performance applications
- 21400-H7210 B210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR (8/75 TO 7/76) 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
- 99996-H2500 B210 W/P & FAN CLUTCH ASSY No HP loss due to needless operation of fan at high RPM. Kit includes all required parts
- 21400-H9300 210 FACTORY O/S RADIATOR 3-core radiator designed for high-performance applications
Reference: 1984 Nissan Competition Parts catalog