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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

60-Series Transmission

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The 60-series transmissions can handle the torque from A14 and A15 engines. So the 60 four-speed is stronger than the 56 four-speed which was used behind A12 engine. The 60-series 5-speed is a beefier model than the stock Datsun 1200 GX-5's 56-Series Transmission. These 5-speeds came in the 1977-1982 Datsun B310 (210/Sunny/140Y/150Y). The four-speeds came behind A14s & A15s.

Contents

Identification

See 5-speeds#60_vs_56

Overview

60-series transmissions were used exclusively behind A14 and A15 engines, due to their ability to handle more torque than the smaller 56-series. However, starting with the B310 it was also offered behind the A12.

* B310 GL with A12 (B310H) came with optional 5-speed 60L (B310HF)
* FS5W60L used through 8010 (end of A12 in Japan)
* A13 (debut 8011) used 60A

60-series transmissions came in three varieties:

  • 60L four-speed for A-series engine
  • 60L five-speed for A-series engine
  • 60A five-speed for A-series engine
60L for A-series engine
* Four-speed: 1975 to 1982
* Five-speed: 1977-1979 B310 Sunny (manufactured through 1979 September)
  * Dogleg shift pattern
60A five-speed for A-series engine
* 1980-up B310 Sunny (from 1979 October)
* Standard shift pattern

Note that 60-series gearboxes may be available for other engine types, so make sure you get one to match the A-series engine.

For an overview of 5-speeds in general, see: 5-Speeds. Comparos, Ratio info, etc.

Gear Ratios

(see 5-speed Gear Ratios)
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box	         4th	3rd	2nd	1st	5th	Rev
60L 4-speed     1.000	1.378	2.170	3.513		3.764
60L 5-speed     1.000	1.378	2.170	3.513	0.846	3.464
60A 5-speed A   1.000	1.378	2.170	3.513	0.821	3.764
60A 5-speed B   1.000	1.320	2.170	3.513	0.821	3.764

NOTES

  • The 1st through 4th gears are all the same -- 4-speed and 5-speed -- except for a few 5-speeds with 3rd closer to top (larger gap from 2nd to 3rd).
  • For freeway driving, the 60A has a larger overdrive and so is preferable to the 60L dogleg.
  • First gear is the same in all 60-series boxes

Swap Notes

When swapping a 60 transmission into a 1200, these parts should be obtained from the donor car:

  • Transmission
  • Release Lever which differs from the 1200 part
  • Release Bearing sleeve, which may differ from the 1200 version
  • Shifter
  • Crossmember or at least the rubber insulator

Read Blat's first-hand account of swapping the 5-speed: Experiences swapping B210 H150 rear and B310 60A 5spd into my 1200.

Can you give me some tips on installing a 60-series 5-speed?

* the 60a 4-speed and 60a 5-speeds are the same length as the stock Datsun 1200 transmission, and the shifter is in the same spot

Rear Crossmember

The rear engine crossmember, that is to say the Gearbox Crossmember.

6946.jpg B310 stock rear engine mounts

Pitroad says the South Africa Datsun Bakkie (B140) had a FS5W60A 5-speed, and that the trans crossmember might work for a B110.

The 56-series mount (insulator) fits inside the crossmember, and bolts to the sides of the crossmember:
4651.jpg 1200 style mount

  • 11321-H1000 ASSY-INSULATOR ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B110 MANUAL
  • 11321-H1020 ASSY-INSULATOR ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B110 AUTOMATIC
  • 11321-H6200 ASSY-INSULATOR ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B210 A13 MANUAL TO 0873 [56-series]
  • 11321-H6201 B210 A14 0978-0874 [60-series 4-speed]
  • 11321-H7300 B210 A14 0974- [60-series 4-speed]
  • 11323-H7310 [63-series 5-speed]
  • 11321-H6201 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B310 A12A MANUAL [56-series]

The 60-series insulators sit on top of the crossmember, and bolt from the bottom:
1706.jpg B310 60-series rear engine mount

  • Uses two M8 X 1.25 NUT
  • 11320-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B310 A14/A15 MANUAL [60-series]
  • 11320-W5800 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING REAR B310 AUTOMATIC

B140 Gearbox crossmember for FS5W60B. It appears the tunnel mounts are fitted further back than in the 1200.
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Using 1200 Crossmember

The stock 1200 crossmember can be adapted to fit a 60-series transmission. It depends on which 60 (60L vs 60A).

Automatic-tunnel 1200

Automatic 1200s will fit the 60 by reversing the stock 1200 crossmember.

Manual-tunnel 1200

Stock 1200 mount fitment (56-series)
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60-series fitment with stock unmodified 1200 crossmember -- using simple adapter plate between rubber mount and gearbox:
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Simple rectanguler plate with four holes drilled

60-series fitment with stock 1200 crossmember. The rubber mount is modified (plate welded to the rubber mount top plate, and the original holes trimmed off for factory appearance):
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click click click

Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10 -- classic cut & shut. Slice up the old mount & crossmber then reweld it.
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Idea - will this work? Instead of welding, cut the corners off the stock mount, drill new holes farther apart so it fits the gearbox, then use spacer to bolt to the chassis.
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60-series fitment with modified 60-series crossmember:
- crossmember narrowed, cut to fit into 1200 tunnel
- tabs welded to the crossmember
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Using B310 Mount

Or, use the B310 60-series rubber insulator with a simple custom crossmember that bolts to the original crossmember points.

60-series rubber mount
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* See Gearbox Crossmember#Rubber_Insulator for part numbers

NOTE: There is a difference in how a 60L 5-speed and a 60A 5-speed mounts. Apparently the 60L is lower by 20mm and it may be offset by 15 mm. When using a 60A custom crossmember, 20 mm spacers may be required to fit a 60L.

Flat Steel Crossmember

Fabricate a u-shaped flat steel adapter, then bolt on for a 60L (4 or 5 speed). For the 60A, fit it with long bolts and spacers.

60 custom crossmember for Datsun 1200
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A sleeker version can also be fabricated:
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* The rubber insulator picture is a stock 60-series rubber unit.

Bprojects 60A Install Kit

Bprojects sells a sophisticated kit which doesn't need long bolts or spacers. Buy at B-Pro, which replaces both the rubber mount and the crossmember:
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Fits 60-series to Datsun 1200 manual tunnel.

Pitroad 60A Fitting Kit

Pitroad sells a kit to place a 60A into a 1200:
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They say it will also work for 60L if 20mm spacers are used.

Home-built Kits

ang94541 60A kit
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tsillay 60A kit
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EDP 60A adapter
th_P1020261.jpg th_P1020260.jpg th_P1020259.jpg

Unknown adapter
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clyon's 60A adapter
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OR, cut down a 60-series crossmember and weld angle-iron to it:
holes offset ~40mm and ~230mm apart
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Custom Crossmember

Various type can be used, including:

* Wide crossmember, bolted to floor pans
* Modified stock crossmember
* Solid-mount

Wide Crossmember

A wide crossmember can be bolted to the floor pan using large washer for reinforcement. Then the original 1200 gearbox body brackets can be removed, providing enough space for the reverse lamp switch.

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universal gearbox crossmember designs
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A piece of 40mm box steel will do the job. Bolt it to the rubber mount of the gearbox and then bolt it to the floor - add some spacers as required.
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PIGDOG welded late model Nissan floor boss
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mattdatca18
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sandwhich
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Modified Crossmember

A 1200 crossmember was welded to a B210 crossmember
th_60_b110a.jpg th_60_b110b.jpg th_60_b110c.jpg

Solid Mount

If you don't mind vibrations, the rubber isolator can be left out. This makes the 60A 5-speed easy to bolt up. The 60L can be treated similarly but needs spacers.

The 60A is flush to the existing 1200 mounting ears
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So a flat bar can be used (the stock B310 crossmember dips down to provide room for the rubber mount)

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The bar just needs offset bolts

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Tailshaft

The stock Datsun 1200 driveshaft should be used. While the B310 driveshaft is the same length, it has the larger H150-style rear flange.

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Reverse Switch

The location of the Reverse Switch can differ between all the different transmission. It is a problem when fitting any 60-series gearbox in to the small 1200 manual tunnel. The reverse-light switch is right where the Datsun 1200 chassis x-member mount is.
6567.jpg

Options to work around this problem include:

Plug

Remove the Reverse Switch, discard it, then plug the hole. A spare A12 engine-block drain plug fits (from the side of the engine block). Optionally you can fit a switch to the shifter to activate the reverse lamp.

* a shifter-mounted Reverse Lamp Switch#Swap Notes
* a switch plug
  25669.jpg

If you screw the plug in too far you end up effectively stopping the shift from traveling over far enough to make either the shift up to 5 or down to reverse. There must be a millimeter or so play.

Clearance Tunnel

Cut a hole in the side of the tunnel and let the switch protrude into the cabin. Then cover/enclose the switch with custom-bent piece of sheet metal.

Tunnel Swap

Fit a tunnel removed from an automatic-transmission 1200, or a larger Tunnel such as B210 or 610 which helpfully is the exact shape needed for a 1200.

Crossmember Modification

Remove the 1200 original crossmember bosses and move them back
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The brackets are tack-welded, so you can drill out the welds, and remove the brackets in one piece.

OR

Remove the 1200 original crossmember bosses and fitting a wide crossmember. See Custom Crossmember
18458.jpg

Swap Into Datsun 1200

(A special note of thanks to Davo1200 who started this section originally in the old Tech Section)


How do I install a 5 speed Sunny box?

So we've just picked up one of those rare 5 speed Datsun Sunny boxes and we want to bolt it to our engine. The bellhousing itself and starter motor bolts up with no problems but the gearbox cross member sits too far back and the reverse light switch hits the tunnel. What do we do?

Take the reverse switch out. The thread size is an un common size and you will have trouble finding a suitable replacement bolt that is flat enough to clear the tunnel.

Modify the switch! Sit switch in a vice and cut switch with an angle grinder so that switch is now fairly flat. A little ball bearing will fall out and discard the rest.

Now we have a bolt with a hole in it! You can either fill the hole with weld, making sure not to warp the bolt, or, you can just fill with epoxy resin. Let it sit for a while and bolt back into place on the gearbox. You will have no reverse lights now so a seperate switch will have to be added to the interior.

Great! No we can actually sit the box up into place!

Now check out how far back the gearbox cross member mounts sit. Its approx 2" futher back from the stock 1200 mounting points. A fabricated cross member will have to be made to allow for this 2" change. Some flat steel bar, a press drill and a welder will be needed.

After gearbox cross member has been fabricated, bolt into place. Fill gearbox with new oil, fit clutch cable, hook up the tail shaft and go for a drive. Yeah 5 gears!!

Vanette Transmission

Nissan Vanette came with RS5W60A transmission. This is an "RS" (remote shift) version, and so is not a bolt-in swap.

4650.jpg FS5W60A vs RS5W60A 5-speed comparo

Pitroad sells a conversion kit to change an RS to an FS: http://www.pitroad-ts.com/A-parts-2/Rs5w60a.htm



Parts

See main article: 60-Series Transmission Parts