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- | The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still fits in the uncut Datsun 1200 sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head. | + | The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood] and without cutting the sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head. |
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B]. <br>NOTE: The [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2089&forum=1#2112 L20B] is taller though so not commonly used, but it [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood]. Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]]. A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars. | + | = Discussions = |
+ | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16] | ||
+ | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18] | ||
+ | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B] | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=92 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/92.jpg] | + | |
- | L18 fitted | + | = Engines = |
+ | * L13: early Datsun 510 Standard models came with L13. Don't bother to swap this, an A14 is better. | ||
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+ | * L14: Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]]. | ||
+ | *: However, why bother these days? Nissan didn't have an A14 in 1970, but we do now, and it is much less work to fit. | ||
+ | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=851 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/851.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1534 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1534.jpg] | ||
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+ | * L16: A bit more power than an A15, the L16 is good choice if you obtain one inexpensively. | ||
+ | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=616 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/616.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8902 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8902.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14134 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14134.jpg] | ||
+ | |||
+ | * L18 is a big power boost over an A15: | ||
+ | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=92 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/92.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=291 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/291.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1143 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1143.jpg] | ||
+ | LZ20 DOHC engine | ||
+ | |||
+ | * L20B fitted: | ||
+ | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1262 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1262.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5388 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5388.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8153 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8153.jpg] | ||
+ | |||
+ | * LZ Engine: A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars. | ||
+ | |||
+ | See main article: [LZ engine]] | ||
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=95 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/95.jpg] | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=95 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/95.jpg] | ||
LZ20 DOHC engine | LZ20 DOHC engine | ||
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+ | = Crossmember = | ||
+ | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1152 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1152.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg] | ||
= Transmission = | = Transmission = | ||
- | Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 15 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out. Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine. | + | Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 10 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out. |
+ | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12613 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12613.jpg] engine tilt | ||
+ | * Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine. | ||
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* Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine | * Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine | ||
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+ | = Photo Index = | ||
+ | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5386 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5386.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5387 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5387.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5388 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5388.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5853 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5853.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5854 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5854.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8153 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8153.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8746 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8746.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8752 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8752.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8902 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8902.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9363 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9363.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9386 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9386.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10332 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10332.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10332 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10332.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11155 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11155.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11156 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11156.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11159 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11159.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11163 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11163.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11165 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11165.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11169 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11169.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11170 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11170.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11209 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11209.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12613 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12613.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12846 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12846.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12847 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12847.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16082 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16082.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17001 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/17001.jpg] | ||
[[Category:Engine Modifications]] | [[Category:Engine Modifications]] |
Revision as of 04:24, 23 March 2009
The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the Nissan A Engine. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still will fit under the hood and without cutting the sheetmetal. The Z-series Engine is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.
Contents |
Discussions
Engines
- L13: early Datsun 510 Standard models came with L13. Don't bother to swap this, an A14 is better.
- L14: Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only PB110.
LZ20 DOHC engine
- LZ Engine: A super-rare racing engine was the LZ20 twin-cam, fitted to 1200 racing cars.
See main article: [LZ engine]]
Crossmember
Transmission
Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 10 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out.
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engine tilt
- Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.
Using a stubby transmission will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. These are also called shorty or short-tailed.
- Stubby is ~26.3 inches -- same length as Datsun 510 automatic transmission
4-speed stubby gearboxes are common:
- 1968-1973 Datsun 510 ("1600") F4W63
5-speed stubby gearboxes comes from:
- 1981-1985 R30 Skyline with L24 six-cylinder engine
- 1977-1979 200SX USA S10 (L-series engine, FS5W63 "smoothcase" dogleg)
- 1968-1973 PL510 (L-series engine, F4W63 "bottom pan")
- 720 FS5W71B "ribbed case" used on certain 720 4X4s (long wheelbase?)
- Z-engined series
- may have had an L series in 1980 only
Comparo
- Regular
- ~31.5 inches overall transmission length
- transmission extension housing about same length as (front) transmission case
- From the bottom front of the bell housing to the cross member bolts is ~21-1/2"
- Stubby
- ~26.3 inches overall transmission length
- transmission extension housing about 5" shorter than transmission case
Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in. You can see it here:
Photo Gallery: L Engine transmission comparison photos at http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=2373 Ratsun.net]
L20B Swap
The L20B is a 2-liter four cylinder engine. Not to be confused with the L20 six cylinder.
- no holes cut
- just panel beat the lower corners of the front of the tunnel with a hammer, as the L series is wider
- modify the engine mounts and make a crossmember
- 1200 crossmember had the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of an 810, then cut the 810 mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles.
- 810 oil sump is a near-perfect fit in the 1200, reshape it a little just so it will clear the crossmember, maybe 1/2cm with a hammer
- fitting the radiator in isn't a problem. you'll need a thermostat-controlled fan in front of the radiator (i.e. on the grill side)
Sources
- Datsun 810 Australia model with L20B engine
- Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine