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L-series Engine Swap

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* Nissan Leopard F30 L20E, L20ET * Nissan Leopard F30 L20E, L20ET
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 +Datsun 510 (1600) headers reportedly fit well in a 1200.
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 +When using a 63-series 5-speed, you can use Datsun 1200 Manual tailshaft.
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 +Changing the clutch over to hydraulic from cable.
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 +Use an electric fan, as there usually is not enough room for standard engine-driven fan.

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The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the Nissan A Engine. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still will fit under the hood and without cutting the sheetmetal. The Z-series Engine is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.


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Discussions


And for L Engine questions unrelated to Datsun 1200s specifically:


Engines

  • L13: early Datsun 510 Standard models came with L13. Don't bother to swap this, an A14 is better.
  • L14: Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only PB110.
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    However, why bother these days? Nissan didn't have an A14 in 1970, but we do now, and it is much less work to fit, and weighs a lot less.
  • L16: A bit more power than an A15, the L16 is good choice if you obtain one inexpensively.
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  • L18 is a big power boost over an A15:
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  • L20B fitted:
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  • LZ Engine: A super-rare racing engine was the LZ20 twin-cam, fitted to 1200 racing cars.
See main article: [LZ engine]]

95.jpg LZ20 DOHC engine

Crossmember

You can modify the 1200 crossmember: Have the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of a 200B, then cut the 200B mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles. A 910 Bluebird L20B sump fits almost perfect, reshape it with a hammer a little just so it will clear the 1200 crossmember, maybe 1/2cm.

If using other sumps, you may need to do the following:

  • Remove notch from Datsun 1200 xmember
  • Reshape sump to clear the drag link


Sumps:

  • Datsun A10 (Stanza/510) sump and oil pump pickup are the most forward type that is available
  • Most L20B sumps are same as A10
  • Datsun 1600 and Datsun 180B sump is slightly more rearward

Sumps and pickups can be interchanged, but the blocks may need to be drilled for the dipstick.


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Rear Crossmember

Rear crossmember (Transmission Mount)

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Transmission

63-series transmissiosn for L Engine fit quite snuggly in the standard Datsun 1200 manual tunnel. Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 10 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out.

  • 15831.jpg engine tilt
  • Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.


Using a stubby transmission will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. These are also called shorty, stumpy, or short-tailed.

  • Stubby is ~26.3 inches -- same length as Datsun 510 automatic transmission


4-speed stubby gearboxes are common:

  • 1968-1973 Datsun 510 ("1600") F4W63


5-speed stubby gearboxes comes from:

  • 1981-1985 R30 Skyline with L24 six-cylinder engine
  • 1977-1979 200SX USA S10 (L-series engine, FS5W63 "smoothcase" dogleg)
  • 1968-1973 PL510 (L-series engine, F4W63 "bottom pan")
  • 720 FS5W71B "ribbed case" used on certain 720 4X4s (long wheelbase?)
    • Z-engined series
    • may have had an L series in 1980 only


Comparo

  • Regular
    • ~31.5 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about same length as (front) transmission case
    • From the bottom front of the bell housing to the cross member bolts is ~21-1/2"
  • Stubby
    • ~26.3 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about 5" shorter than transmission case


Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in. You can see it here:

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    Comparo: Stubby vs Regular transmission
    Notice the shifter location (top part of picture)


Photo Gallery: L Engine transmission comparison photos at Ratsun.net

L20B Swap

The L20B is a 2-liter four cylinder engine. Not to be confused with the L20 six cylinder. 14151.jpg

  • no holes cut
  • just panel beat the lower corners of the front of the tunnel with a hammer, as the L series is wider
  • modify the engine mounts and make a crossmember
    • 1200 crossmember had the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of an 810, then cut the 810 mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles.
  • 810 oil sump is a near-perfect fit in the 1200, reshape it a little just so it will clear the crossmember, maybe 1/2cm with a hammer
  • fitting the radiator in isn't a problem. you'll need a thermostat-controlled fan in front of the radiator (i.e. on the grill side)



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L20B Sources

  • Datsun 200B 810 Australia model with L20B engine
  • Datsun 620 Pickup USA (1976-1979)
  • Datsun 200SX (S10)
  • Datsun 720 Pickup (1980)
  • Datsun/Nissan 910 Bluebird
  • Nissan Skyline C210 2000GT, 2000GT-EX (L20ET)
  • Nissan Leopard F30 L20E, L20ET

Swap Notes

Engine fitment: It is a tight fit

  1. Remove front and rear crossmembers
  2. Lift car over engine and gearbox
  3. Replace crossmembers
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Clearance the 1200 manual tunnel:

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Datsun 510 (1600) headers reportedly fit well in a 1200.


When using a 63-series 5-speed, you can use Datsun 1200 Manual tailshaft.


Changing the clutch over to hydraulic from cable.


Use an electric fan, as there usually is not enough room for standard engine-driven fan.


Photo Index

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