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| To identify a [[5-speeds|5-speed transmission]], look for the series casting mark (56, 56A, 60, 63) on the left side of the gearbox. | To identify a [[5-speeds|5-speed transmission]], look for the series casting mark (56, 56A, 60, 63) on the left side of the gearbox. | ||
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| The series casting mark is on the right side of the gearboxes. | The series casting mark is on the right side of the gearboxes. | ||
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22342 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22342.jpg] | + | 60 series has it on the lower right side in front of the center plate |
| - | <br>60 series has it on the lower right side in front of the center plate | + | <br>{{Album|22342}} {{Album|1883}} |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1680 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1680.jpg] | + | 56 series 5-speed has it right side about center |
| - | <br>56 series 5-speed has it right side about center | + | <br>{{Album|1680}} |
| - | <br>56 series 4-speed has it forward of here | + | |
| - | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4658 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4658.jpg] | + | |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22338 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/22338.jpg] <br> 63A has it on the lower right side of the extension housing | + | 56 series 4-speed has it forward of center |
| + | <br>{{Album|4658}} | ||
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1883 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1883.jpg] | + | 63A has it on the lower right side of the extension housing |
| + | <br>{{Album|22338}} | ||
| = Ribbed-case vs Smooth-case = | = Ribbed-case vs Smooth-case = | ||
| - | 56-series trannies are small and light, and have these visible ribs on the case and bell section. | + | 56-series trannies are small and light, and have these visible ribs on the case and bell section. By contrast, 60-series and 63-series are "smooth case" transmission with no ribs on the bellhousing area. |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1662 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1662.jpg] 56 four-speed [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1675 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1675.jpg] F5C56 5-speed | + | 56 four-speed | 5-speed |
| - | + | <br>{{AlbumH|1662|jpg|560}} {{Album|1675}} | |
| - | By contrast, 60-series and 63-series are "smooth case" transmission with no ribs on the bellhousing area. | + | |
| = Smooth Case 56 = | = Smooth Case 56 = | ||
| - | There are some rare smooth-case 56-series gearboxes. It is unknown what these are out of. | + | There are some '''rare''' smooth-case 56-series gearboxes. It is unknown what these are out of. |
| - | See [[56#Smooth Case|56-series Smooth Case]] | + | {{Main|56#Smooth Case|56-series Smooth Case}} |
| - | <img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/19710.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19710 album] | + | {{Album|19710}} |
| Compare to 63-series, which has a rib around the middle section: | Compare to 63-series, which has a rib around the middle section: | ||
| - | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1278 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/1278.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|1278}} |
| Compare to 60-series, which has a ring around the engine flange area: | Compare to 60-series, which has a ring around the engine flange area: | ||
| - | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1676 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/1676.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|1676}} |
| = 60 vs 56 = | = 60 vs 56 = | ||
| - | http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/945.jpg | + | 56 & 60 comparo. Size=similar & shape=similar. Ribbing very different |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=945 56A & 60A comparo (4-speeds)] Size; shape comparison. | + | <br>{{Album|945}} {{Album|1674}} |
| - | [http://www.pitroad-ts.com/tuning-page/f5c56a-N.htm Pitroad F5C56A transmission (b110)] | + | Discussions |
| - | + | * [{{Post|21130}} what gearbox is it?] | |
| - | + | * [{{Post|20954}} Dog Leg Gear Boxes] | |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8128&forum=1 what gearbox is it?] | + | |
| - | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8104&forum=2 Dog Leg Gear Boxes] | + | |
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| - | http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/1674.jpg | + | |
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1674 F5C56A and F5W60L Comparison] | + | |
| = 60L vs 60A = | = 60L vs 60A = | ||
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| Right side: Bulge in tailhousing is larger | Right side: Bulge in tailhousing is larger | ||
| - | <br>{{Album|23636}} {{Album|22337}} {{Album|13617}} | + | <br>{{Album|23636}} {{Album|13617}} |
| - | == 60A 5-speed == | + | {{Album|22337}} |
| - | Left side. Top: 60L 4-speed | + | |
| - | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22339 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/22339.jpg] | + | |
| - | <br>Bottom: 60A 5-speed | + | |
| + | == 60A 5-speed == | ||
| From the left side, the difference is less obvious. But you can still see the bulge in the extension housing for the 5th gear. | From the left side, the difference is less obvious. But you can still see the bulge in the extension housing for the 5th gear. | ||
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| + | Left side. Top: 60L 4-speed | Bottom: 60A 5-speed | ||
| + | <br>{{Album|22339}} | ||
| = 4-speed vs 5-speed, 56 Series = | = 4-speed vs 5-speed, 56 Series = | ||
| - | See Main Article: [[F5C56#4-speed vs 5-speed]] | + | {{Main|F5C56#4-speed vs 5-speed}} |
| The 5-speed: | The 5-speed: | ||
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| Vanette "Remote" shift transmission could be used for parts to repair an "F" Floor shift 60A. | Vanette "Remote" shift transmission could be used for parts to repair an "F" Floor shift 60A. | ||
| - | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4650 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4650.jpg] comparison | + | {{Album|4650}} |
| - | [[Category:Transmission]] | + | [[Category:Transmission]]{{End}} |
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To identify a 5-speed transmission, look for the series casting mark (56, 56A, 60, 63) on the left side of the gearbox.
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Casting Mark
The series casting mark is on the right side of the gearboxes.
60 series has it on the lower right side in front of the center plate
56 series 5-speed has it right side about center
56 series 4-speed has it forward of center
63A has it on the lower right side of the extension housing
Ribbed-case vs Smooth-case
56-series trannies are small and light, and have these visible ribs on the case and bell section. By contrast, 60-series and 63-series are "smooth case" transmission with no ribs on the bellhousing area.
56 four-speed | 5-speed
Smooth Case 56
There are some rare smooth-case 56-series gearboxes. It is unknown what these are out of.
Compare to 63-series, which has a rib around the middle section:
Compare to 60-series, which has a ring around the engine flange area:
60 vs 56
56 & 60 comparo. Size=similar & shape=similar. Ribbing very different
Discussions * POST what gearbox is it? * POST Dog Leg Gear Boxes
60L vs 60A
F5W60A and F5W60L Comparison
NOTE: -L and -A do not indicate the engine type
The FS5W60L is known in Japan the "low-back 5-speed" and came in the early B310 Sunny, and 1979 model year USA B310.
reference: Iruka, Sunnytruck
Identification: "FS5W60L" 5-speed 1977-1979 Datsun B310 (210/Sunny)
- Oil plug out the back is 60L (not pointing down like 60A)
- H90 part prefix (cast into cluster plate) is unique to this transmission
- 60L in right-and-up position is Direct (4th) per dogleg shifter. Whereas in the 60A this same position is 5th.
- 60L has no boss sticking out the right side of the back, whereas the 60A has it (up high).
Unique double-gear cluster gear in extension housing is 60L
who_your_datty_1200 pointed out that the #2 casting mark on the back is an indicator of the dogleg shift pattern. However this might be gear options -- technically it is the casting revision.
63-series 5-speed
This is the FS5W63A "dogleg" transmission. Note the casting line "ring" around the center section on the otherwise smooth housing.
The 63 transmission came with A14-powered B210 (HB211 and HLB210). It was not used by Nissan Competition for racing. Instead the 56-series was recommended for the small cars, and the 71 for the larger cars.
32010-H7510 TRANSMISSION ASSY B211.A14 JAPAN 7510- FS5W63A
Top: 63 'big boy', Bottom: 60 series
The 1977-1978 USA got B210s with factory 5-speed transmissions, enabling it to be the 1976 fuel economy champion in the USA
63 series L-engine vs A-engine
63 series gearboxes speeds were available for A14 engines and for L-series engines, Z-series engines and J-series engine. So be careful to match the bell pattern and make sure the one you buy fits the A-series.
4-speed vs 5-speed, 63 Series
If you see the pan bolted to the bottom (kindof like an automatic), it's a 4-speed
4-speed vs 5-speed, 60 Series
Make sure you don't purchase a 4-speed by accident :-) they are very similar looking.
60L 5-speed
Left side: Almost identical
Right side: Bulge in tailhousing is larger
60A 5-speed
From the left side, the difference is less obvious. But you can still see the bulge in the extension housing for the 5th gear.
Left side. Top: 60L 4-speed | Bottom: 60A 5-speed
4-speed vs 5-speed, 56 Series
The 5-speed:
- top two case bolts are long (2-3" long)
- has a reverse light switch on top, pointing straight back
R vs F Comparo
Vanette "Remote" shift transmission could be used for parts to repair an "F" Floor shift 60A.
